Just my $0.02, keep your palm or put up with hassles with the various kluges that run on the n800.

Personally, with the lack of wifi (and ludicrously expensive cell phone data acess)around here and lack of a decent PIM, my n800 has become mostly an ebook reader. It stays home on the charger while the old Z31 goes with me.

You are supposed to worship the ITs because they are ITs, not necessarily because they are really useful .

OMG! Can ... not ... live ... anymore! *rolls eyes*

Nice way to take something completely out of context, "mullf". Are there any other examples of "poor online etiquette" which you would like to demonstrate?

(That is a rhetorical question. Please do not.)

I use a Palm for playing MP3 files since it will run both Audible and Ptunes. Both programs bookmark an audio file automatically and make it possible to listen to Audiobooks. I have found no equal to these on the N800. I was hoping the GVM would be a solution but it doesn't read from removable cards. Just something to keep in mind when comparing the two devices.

Well, I got my N800 in february and about 3 weeks ago I sold my old Tungsten E2 with Wi-Fi card. Haven't looked back since. It took some time and effort to get all apps to replace most of the Palm functionality I needed, but between GPE Calendar, Contacts and To Dos and GPE Summary, Phonelink and Erminig I was up and running in a few days with almost all my data.

The only thing I really miss from my old Palm is SmartLists to Go, as it had my customized grocery list And maybe the color-coded calendar. And maybe Palmary Clock, as the alarms in the NT are quite rudimentary although useful.

Other than that, I exported all my Contact5 data to the Garnet emulator, which although seriously flawed allows me to have all my contact data, which I'm little by little exporting to GPE Contacts.

The new possibilities that the NT offered are in a different scale as those of the Palm, and believe me I used my Palm for a LOT of stuff: e-books, music, notes, IM, agenda, contacts, SMS, spreadsheets, etc.

Being able to surf the net as if using a desktop and use online applications is great, being able to read and update my 3 blogs and check my email quickly and reliably, and of course using Skype, have been a most welcome change. All Starbucks in Mexico City offer free Wi-Fi connections if you have a Prodigy ISP account, which I do and this is the case for many other businesses, so it is not difficult to find where to connect your NT, which I guess it ¡s really what the NT is about: Managing and keeping up with your online life from your NT.

Don't be mistaken, a desktop or laptop are still more comfortable for some things but essentially all the functionality is there. And there is still no laptop that you can carry in your back pocket, is there?

A few of my more technically-inclined friends were long-time Palm users and most of them are already N800 users or will be shortly, as they have seen the benefits of the NTs. Some of us are certainly spreading the NT Gospel here and are gaining converts every day

Some of us think that if Nokia puts more money and effort into the NT project, it has all the potential to become the "next big gadget" for a good segment of computer users. At least I'm aware that this is still far from being the definitive version of the Internet Tablet concept, at least for Nokia. Let's see what the future holds.

In short, as I see it: if you have enough business online and you have a good supply of Wi-Fi connections around you, the NT will be a godsend as you'll be able to do many things with it. If you don't and in addition you don't like tinkering with your electronic toys, then clearly the NT is not for you.

For some of us, we parted ways with our beloved Palms with a bittersweet smile and silent "thank you" for all the good services it provided for a long time...

...and then proceeded to login to the nearest WiFi connection to read the Forums here and find out what new apps can be installed in our NTs

Saludos

Angel
Mexico City

JoeF, I'm not sure you're right; so maybe I have good news for you? I think GVM may read from removable cards.

I have GVM installed, and within it I installed MobiReader.

I have books installed on a removable SD card. What I did was "Install" the individual books from the Garnet home page. And then I can open them from within the Garnet-based MobiReader.

I guess I don't know if the books are being *read from* the removable card or if they are first being *copied* to the internal flash memory. (If I knew how to search the contents of flash memory, I could find out. But FileManager doesn't seem to allow access to the flash memory and I don't know how to do a search using emelFM2. If someone posts how to use a Search function in emelFM2, I'll try it.)

I've only installed two Mobi books for MobiReader as this was only an experiment (since FBReader is infinitely better on the NIT).

love the zealots and their '...the n8x0 is not intended...' BS line. By that logic neither is a PC so the should not be the central hub in a PIM solution.

What IS the n8x0 'intended' to be used as? Currently it's NOT much of a media player, no user friendly database. It's not a lot of anything...it's the 'Renaissance Man' of computing...claims a lot of abilities but is not a master of any of them.

Oh, it's an excellent internet browsing device. Thus happens to be one of the most important functions for me. Skype works flawlessl for me also. Both are primary use functions for me. So, I am happy with the n800.

I do like my N800, but it's not a lot of things. And it's become the darling of the anti-MS clique around here and there.

Heck, i have yet to see a spell check that works. But there is aways plenty of attention attention for the latest 'yet another media player'. And for the regular around here who loves to reply with comments such as '...who are you to say what developers should be doing...' I am a potential customer who knows what I need but see the majority of IT developers are not interested in real applications in favor of games & entertainment apps. PRO developers understand and listen to their customer base. they do not tell them they are stupid when asking for what we need. And we KNOW it takes time but eventually we need to evaluate if it's all vaporware.

Last read the 'descriptions' of the 'installable apps' section in the 'application manager'. Nothing but jagon and/or two word, ahem, 'descriptions'. Few ever even mention the actual purpose of the app...nice.

All that said...i love my n800. it does enough well and is fun to use most days. But I am also honest, IT's will never be much more then they are now. Just being honest about my concerns if it will every reach it's potential before becoming just another $300 throw away device.

Well I've been a Palm user for years, my first palm was a Vx eight or nine years ago.
Since then I had a Tungsten E a Tx and a Lifedrive. All of them where good products but now I'm done with Palm. They're obsolete and there's no software for it. The fact it's that Palm company is in serious trouble
A phone like N70 can do everything that a Treo can do.
For other stuff like browsing, ebook reading, email or voip iPod Touch or N800 are much better options. I 've got N70 iPod Touch and N800 and I dont miss my palms in anything.
For gaming Nintendo DS is for me the better choice, it has also capabilities as a webbrowser, contacts, calendar, ebooks comics etc...
Also PSP, blackberrys, iPhones are cool
My point is today palms are outdated, there's a lot new stuff as useful and more fun to play with
I love palms, I've been palm fanboy for years and still love it but they belong to the past, or to my past at least.

If you're one of those people who tried to force your Palm to be a general computer,
doing email and web browsing and everything else, then you may well be happy
replacing it with an NIT. If, on the other hand, you use your Palm for its intended
PIM core function, perhaps having moved there from a Daytimer, then an NIT
won't even come close. The information is way too many steps removed.
I pul out my Treo, push one button, and I'm looking at today's agenda.

I like my N810 a lot. I'm in a cafe posting from it now. No way would I do that
from a Palm. But it didn't replace my Palm. It replaced my laptop.

I'm curious, dubwise: don't you think that the hardware and OS are sufficient that with a good, simple PIM, it could replace your Palm? If not, I'm curious as to why not.