Playlists can be created, saved and used in the default MediaPlayer. A while back, zerojay gave a great walk-thru on doing just that.

GeneralAntilles is right (as ever) though, no amount of arguing can fix braindead design and UI spec issues.

#303 (12/24h clock choice) has been open for nearly 2.5 years - since the 770 was first released. It has 21 votes and 22 comments and still hasn't been fixed.

The problems so bad, I've had to set IT OS to show me an analogue clock and then use fiferboy's panel clock to show me the time in a format of my choosing when I want to quickly glance.

For all the talk of openness and the power of Bugzilla, it usually doesn't work for anything in IT OS other than clear bugs :-(

That's one example.

And I don't give up that easily.

Yes, and it was to prove that (un?)"popular" and long-standing issues don't always get prioritised over new features. Is there a corresponding counter-example of a UI spec-led issue which has been changed by popular vote?

I don't think I can be accused of giving up after 2.5 years and another 3000 bugs in Bugzilla! Rather, I think the maemo team have (on this issue); for example the community's not allowed the bug to be closed.

Andrew, I never said they always get fixed.

But never trying will usually ensure that they don't.

I also never accused you of giving up. No need to be defensive.

If I understood Tex, he meant he doesn't give up that easy [as giving up after one counter-example].
Not that he doesn't give up that easy [as A. Flegg does].

You did Benson, and thanks.

Maybe I need to quit using that expression (which I use a lot), and start saying "I don't give up very easily".

I admit to being stubborn to a fault. I suspect I'm on a maemo blacklist somewhere because of it.

Hey Roger...

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ow-to+playlist

I guess you forgot?

I was working on an N800 manifesto similar to RogerS's screed when my laptop went out for repair, taking the document with it. I plan to finish it especially since I'd posted a long history of my search for a new PDA on my own site after walking away from Palm a few years ago. As someone who's used an N800 for 3 months now, here's my take on RogerS's comments and the ensuing fire it started.

-Constructing a playlist?
I look for 3rd party media players to do better, just like on the PC. How does Canola do? I haven't tried the latest betas, and I probably should, but I use my tablet for web and note-taking, nothing more because the email program is far too weak for my needs.

-PAN via Bluetooth?
Amen! Net access via bluetooth to anything should be ready to go out of the box! Isn't this a bluetooth standard feature anyone would want to do? Let me PAN link or whatever from laptops to N800, from phones to N800, heck from even a Bluetooth access point to N800!

-Show hidden files?
The reason why you want to do this is more important than the ability to do it, if you get my drift. If there's something that should be easy to do but requires you to dig into dot-directories to do it, it should be addressed in another way, right?

-Easily add fonts to the tablet?
I've never wanted to add fonts to my tablet and/or browser. Not on the tablet, not on the PC's I've viewed over the past 10 years or so. Why do you need to do this, really? We should be using the Liberation fonts to ensure a completely free device, right?
http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/05/...eration-fonts/

-Make it easy to be root?
I agree it should be built-in, but make it easy? Nope. If people have to open a command line to become root, I'm good with that. Now this as well could be speaking to a need external to becoming root. Maybe too many things require you to actually type things in as root -- that need should be raised separately. I'm sure you know what I mean.

-Face to face cam calls?
I didn't know this worked now. Is there a faq/wiki that tells new users all the great things their tablet can do like this?

-Why does upgrading erase everything?
I agree, but I'm happy to hear the next upgrade ends this pattern, so not an issue anymore if N800 units get the update.

-Why can't installs be done to a memory card?
I hear that. Just give me the option to install to a memory card and have an icon or something on the installer indicating where it is (main memory or memory card).

The most important thing to take away from these wants and desires is that our hearts are in the right place. We don't just want them for us, but we want them in place so we can extol the virtues of this handheld to all of our friends.

This handheld has the more raw potential than ANYTHING on the market today. You know it, RogerS knows it, I know it. When the software delivers (yay Firefox-based browser with Flash!, please continue to be updated!) it helps us evangelize it and be a showoff. We know lots of people craving a device like this, and we know it can be incredible.

Sooo you all say:
Guys at Nokia don't care about bugs.maemo.org
Instability of OS2008 cannot be fixed solely by fixing the bugs, and is much deeper than that.
UI specs is to blame.

Then I proclaim the N810 and OS2008 is an overhyped handicapped load of asss, in the same category as Halo 3 (was playing with group of friends just then).

The complaint in this thread is really about more features, but basic features are not even working properly, but did in previous version!!

I recommend upgrading to OS2007
OR
Hold out for Diablo (OS2009?), as Mr. Antilles claim it would have fixed these rather silly problems, that affects basic usability, which i'll list again:
Screen tap goes to random places / Especially when typing fast on full screen keyboard
One key input causing multiple repeats
High pressure sensitivity with no configuration
Finger tap not bringing up finger keyboard

AND recommend to others not to buy the N810, even the WIMAX version (same old long range unusable crepe, making microb not load any faster). Get the much cheaper N800 instead, or even an Ipod Touch, hey maybe Ubuntu mobile is around the corner? Google Android?

For N800/OS2007:
Install Canola 2 Beta for multimedia use (youtube as well).
Install Pidgin with LED notification for Instant Messenger use.
Email client lacking though, regardless of OS. Modest is unstable, compounded with the instability of OS2008.

OS2007 is not as pretty, but at least it can be USED, and used quite nicely without a stylus.

OS2008 is pretty, can be used but you are constantly stabbing your screen with your stylus while screaming "WTF!! SCROLL DAMN IT!, WHAT!? LOW POWER!? I JUST CHARGED IT!!"

As you can see I have a bitter experience with OS2008 on my N800, dunno about you guys with your N810. Can you even switch to OS2007?

I'm quite tired of these blogs encouraging people to vote the N810 for best mobile thing of the year and saying how wonderful it is.

I myself would like to encourage more threads, articles more critical of the N810 but of course not simply going "NOKIA SUX!" with nothing constructive to say. Which I haven't really seen much of really. So lemme give this a go.

"Nokia, you suck-XOR!isString(R0AR)! Learn to make a product that is AT LEAST AS GOOD AS the previous version!!"

Poor attempt really.

Back on track.
Then again, the N-series really is just Nokia 'playing' and experimenting with Linux and targeting a small demograph of Linux nerds is probably not very profitable anyway, who cares?

Thank you for reading my rather schizo post.