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slip is offline slip
2008-04-17 , 22:51
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Please correct me if I am mistaken, but most of the discussion here seems to be about NIT-to-NIT video calls. Is there a good, simple method for NIT-to-PC video calls yet?

From what I understand:
-Skype on NIT doesn't have video
-GoogleTalk video only works NIT-to-NIT
-Gizmo is a possible NIT-to-PC option, but hardly any no one I know uses Gizmo.
-and None of the mega-IM services (AIM, Yahoo, MSN) are supported either.

Am I wrong?

I keep hoping that the RTCOMM beta will add simple videochat to those mega-IM services, but that seems unlikely at this moment.
 
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2008-04-17 , 23:03
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I went and put gizmo on my home pc and my n810. Besides the video from the 810 being horrible when viewed on either platform (as always) the video on the 810 (from the PC) constantly crapped out even at 128x96 pixels. Are there some tuning factors I need to do?
I don't know about Gizmo specific but what are your bandwidth capabilities at the location? I assume you did this with both endpoints on the same LAN. That means you were both going out to the the net and back. Your internet upstream speed is likely the bottle neck. I don't know/think that Gizmo will "reinvite" connections that it finds can go peer to peer so that the video doesn't have to leave the LAN and come back. I did a similar test (SIP) that forced both ends to travel out and back. The quality was good but close to saturating the upstream. With the NITs on different LANs the quality was very good unless WiFI signal was weak. I find the cameras to be optimized for video calls and work rather well.

First I'd check several bandwidth test sites to determine a realistic upstream speed. Many other factors but I'd start there.

jolouis, it must have been a while since you did * in a box. I think *home is now http://www.asterisknow.org/ . Another boxed * is Trixbox http://www.trixbox.org/ . Both of them work very well but not exactly for total newbies if you expect to turn it on like an iPhone... (too bad iPhone doesn't yet have a SIP client..). Easy enough and if you like to learn then they are great tools that work very well with the NITs including video.
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2008-04-17 , 23:15
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#33
Originally Posted by slip View Post
Please correct me if I am mistaken, but most of the discussion here seems to be about NIT-to-NIT video calls. Is there a good, simple method for NIT-to-PC video calls yet?
I thought that googletalk video works from any client?

I wouldn't count out getting video on the NIT with services that offer it. It might come sooner or later. Funny, it works with xmpp (googletalk, jabber etc) and SIP (gizmo etc); both are open protocols and the others are not....

Personally I don't know many people doing any video from any service. So for me it was an easy choice to run my own IM and phone system. The folks with cameras can use them. I don't need to video the millions of strangers on the mega IM systems.
 
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2008-04-18 , 15:25
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Regarding the original topic, I've done a tutorial on how to set up and use video chat with the built-in internet call client:

http://tabletschool.blogspot.com/200...ablets-to.html
 

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2008-04-18 , 17:00
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Why is it that they can only be used NIT to NIT?

I know I'm able to stream from my PC to my n810.

And when I first do Gizmo PC 2 NIT I get the intial frame and sometimes NIT 2 PC works.
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2008-04-18 , 22:52
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Originally Posted by gemniii42 View Post
Why is it that they can only be used NIT to NIT?

I know I'm able to stream from my PC to my n810.

And when I first do Gizmo PC 2 NIT I get the intial frame and sometimes NIT 2 PC works.
The tablet hardware can technically do NIT to PC, but the built-in software doesn't yet support it.

Basically, Nokia needs to update/replace the built-in video call software.
 
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2008-04-18 , 23:49
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Originally Posted by krisse View Post
The tablet hardware can technically do NIT to PC, but the built-in software doesn't yet support it.

Basically, Nokia needs to update/replace the built-in video call software.
Is this Gizmo specific? I didn't notice because over a generic SIP call it works PC-NIT no problem (if the SIP server supports video). Glad I did my own server....
 
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2008-04-19 , 01:23
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Originally Posted by krisse View Post
The tablet hardware can technically do NIT to PC, but the built-in software doesn't yet support it.
I think this is wrong. There are a few people on this forum that can do video calls to PCs with the built in software. Using a pure SIP environment.
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2008-04-19 , 02:09
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Originally Posted by krisse View Post
Nokia ought to make this a central selling point when advertising the tablet, because video chat can be a pretty amazing and emotional experience. It has all the hallmarks of a "killer app", if only it could be made compatible with a wider range of devices and services.
One day when I was watching tv a cisco ad came on. I was expecting another "Human Network" ad, but this one was new. I didn't pay attention to the ad, until I saw a guy walking with a n800 in his hand and making a video call. I was like waaattt? The guy was talking in a different language (chinese i think?) but that ad got me thinking.
 
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2008-04-19 , 02:48
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Originally Posted by bluesubaru View Post
I think this is wrong. There are a few people on this forum that can do video calls to PCs with the built in software. Using a pure SIP environment.
I think that is referring to Gizmo calls. Gizmo is SIP sorta but not as generic as many. I use the SIP client all the time and have little trouble doing video to NIT or PC.

I just noticed the handle "bluesubaru". Here's mine "silverbaru":
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