Yeah- if only Skype video worked on the N810! I think this is one feature where Intel-run MIDs are going to excel. It's already been announced Skype video will work on Atom-run MIDs. But hearing how easy Gtalk-to-Gtalk is really gets me curious as to how good the quality of video is. I want to give it a try with a few deaf friends and family members of mine-- I have my doubts that the video quality will be good enough to understand them though- but I really hope it is! That would be AWESOME!

In my house, to test it, I tried Gizmo to Gizmo on the ITT (versions 4 and 5) and I could never get video to work. I switched to googletalk and the video worked right off the bat (still in my house).

I initially tried using the Gizmo client (which I guess I wasn't clear about in my last post on this thread). Then I went through the process of figuring out the SIP info for each account and trying it that way. Again, nothing but voice.
With Gizmo, I got voice working fine, and in fact, got voice working really well... except I still couldn't enter my passcode into a bridge (it didn't hear the DTMF codes), so in that aspect, the ITT failed me, using gizmo or straight connecting to a SIP account (where are the DTMF tones once you have a connection???).

I still couldn't get the video to work until I went with googletalk to googletalk.

For voice, I gave up on the tablets because I couldn't enter the passcode on a bridge (which for me is a killer since every call is hosted on someone's bridge). For video, I was still hoping to get immediate family facetime, but now I have been stymied by the (remote) hotel's wireless which the ITT couldn't get on to (on my wife's end). I can't say it is the ITT's fault, but it hasn't made it look good when I tried to video conference with my wife for my mom to see earlier tonight. (It is worth noting that I first got interested in the ITTs so that my kids could video conference with my mom. I think she is scared off of the platform for life now, not that that took too much to scare her off of a complex gadget

In conclusion, It does work sometimes, but it isn't as straightforward as it might be. When it works, it is awfully convincing, but when you try to show it off and it doesn't work, it is still convincing, but in the other direction. *sigh*

This happened to me just once. The hotel required a web page for login, and the browser was not displaying it properly. Actually, it displayed the page, but could not send the credentials.




Count me in for the grandmother connection as well. Except that I sent a preconfigured tablet to my mother and that it worked the first time. I also did not say too much about other possibilities too, so that she could take the time to slowly discover them by herself...

I've used Google Talk - Google Talk for video and it's worked every single time, and you said it worked for you too. Why use Gizmo if Google Talk works?

Google Talk is very very straightforward to set up, you basically just enter the username and password, there are no other settings at all. I can't think how it could be more straightforward.


They've done it with "Internet Call"?

I don't think SIP is the most user-friendly way of doing things though, most people don't even know what SIP means.

There's also no way to set up a SIP account using the built-in software, whereas Google Talk and Jabber DO let you set up a new account in the built-in software.


I'm not talking about Gizmo, that isn't built-in (at least it isn't on the latest firmware). There's a Gizmo icon by default, but that's just a download link like the Skype icon.

The built-in video and voice chat software is Internet Call, which uses Google Talk or Jabber. That comes ready installed, and it's the one newbies are most likely to try and use because of how prominently it's displayed in the second menu, and the way it automatically launches when you open the camera on the N800.

I was stymied as well but I found it, once you are on a call you pull down the menu from InternetCall (like File menu on a PC) and under Internet Call is "DTMF dialing". That pulls up a dialing pad. DTMF will then work. Rather unintuitive but at least it works. I use dialing codes on the PBX and since there isn't an * on the regular pad I had to create a Contact entry in order to dial the codes such as voice mail (*97).

The SIP (Internet Call) client needs some work but it is good enough that I use it as a primary phone. I hope to see it develop further (put the * on the regular dialing pad etc)

As for SIP not being newbie friendly, that's the nature of an open standard. Having a new account being setup from the NIT on a remote server isn't realistic except for proprietary systems. Even jabber accounts won't always work (you can't setup a new account on my jabber server, that option is off at my end). We're all newbies at times so why be scared off from doing one extra step...

I noticed today that there is now a beta of Gizmo 4 available for the Mac. This is significant because I don't believe that there are currently any other NIT-Mac clients (if there are, I'd love to hear about it).

From my limited testing on a home LAN (which was presumably going out and back in again over the NATed connection), the quality of the picture was horrible, especially from the n810 camera, but it might be better under optimal circumstances. It *did* seem to (mostly) work, though, which means that Mac users now actually have an option of video calling.

I have yet to use video chat myself on my N800 but have had experience for a short while with skype video (this depended greatly on how good the broadband each person had but it never seemed fast like regular video but yes it worked).
What i would like is Skype Video not just Skype Audio and also Video Chat via Windows Live Messenger Service from my N800.

Any suggestions in this direction.

Thanks.

I had tried that dialer, but it doesn't work on the bridges that I call into for conference calls. Just to be on the safe side, I just tried it again, but still no luck. It seems the bridge doesn't hear anything. I've also tried the gizmo clients dialer (on the little set of tabs, there is a >, and if you hit that enough to get the rightmost tab, it is the dialpad), but it didn't work either.

Hmmm, wait a minute, though. I *was* able to use the dialer to dial 1 to accept a call coming in through grandcentral. So there is something more at work here than I thought.

Alright, I'm going to try something fancy. I'm going to tell my work sip account to use grandcentral, as my outgoing phone, and have grandcentral ring my gizmo sip account, using the built in internet call client on the n810. From my work sip account I will set the outgoing number to be my conference bridge and ...(dramatic pause)... a puzzling half success. The DTMF worked to accept the incoming grandcentral call, and during the call it set recording on and off (the 6 key?), but my bridge didn't hear anything, including that 6 key that is part of the passcode.

Could it be that the length of the DTMF tones needs to be lengthened for the bridge, but they are long enough for grandcentral? I have heard of DTMF duration being a problem for some IVRs before, so maybe that is it. However, I didn't see any setting to let me play with DTMF duration in the buit in client or in the gizmo client. Oh well. Thanks IcelandDreams, for motivating me to try again. If I periodically poke at it, it's got to work eventually.

Ah, if it were only just one extra step...

In all seriousness, though, most consumers are newbies and they want to stay that way. The one extra step may well be worth their while, but unless they've had 7 friends tell them it is worth their while and they just *have* to do it, they won't.

Perhaps there needs to be timing adjustments but it works on my Asterisk PBX. I have to wait for the call to answer before being able to pull up the DTMF dialing pad but I'm able to for example enter my mailbox and password for voice mail and conference calls.

Well I can't help people that refuse to even try. But you're right, if it takes one extra initial step or having to learn something one time they won't do it. Funny that my young children and a friend that never used a computer before had no problem with the NIT. They just did what was needed and picked it up quickly. It must be the kool aid....

HELP please - I searched and did not yet find where the "built in google chat" or google talk is.
Pointers please.