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#31
Originally Posted by hvacengi View Post
EDIT: I've updated the packages with new ones with bug fixes.
Once again, I begin with thanks, because the new version is an improvement. I almost have it, but I have a couple of questions/observations.

First of all I do not get the url error, or at least not all the time. Of course, it is later in the day and the games have actually started.

Now, when I choose, say, Cardinals/Astros, I get the "Game Viewer" window and from there, clicking on the "MLB TV" button starts MPlayer. The audio is clear, but the video is still garbled. It seems close but so far just not watchable, sorry.

Clicking ion the "Audio" button pops up the "Launching.." window, followed by the "Error Fetching URL" window, then, alas, nothing.

So here are my questions.

What is the expected behavior of these links?

For example, is the "MLB TV" link supposed to display a stream of the 'live' game? It seems like the link for the Astros is streaming the game itself, but it isn't live. Each time I start the stream it starts from the same place (sort of hard to tell where it is in the game).

Also, is the "Audio" link supposed to launch Mplayer as well? And, is it supposed to be a 'live' stream?

Finally, with the new version, on the "Configuration" window, it says, "not found" but a check in emelfm2 reveals that it is there, but without "user" and "pass". So, I went into MLB view and typed in the info. Then I tried the Astros "tv" link and got the url error, alas. Same for all games at this point. Opening the config file opens a blank window that finally goes away with a click on the swap key on my N810. I looked at the file in emelfm2 shows that user and pass are now filled in.

That's a lot of info, hope it helps. Again, my thanks for working on this!
 
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#32
So here is what should happen:
On the first boot ever (uninstall the program and run "rm -a /home/user/.mlb" to rmove all traces) the config window should pop up shortly after the message "loading mlbviewer"

Upon typing in your user name and password, the program should create the config file in "/home/user/.mlb" and then load the settings and gui.

You should see today's schedule, with various games disabled because they haven't played yet, or are in transition (switching from pregame to in progress, saving the game archive, etc.)

When you click on the game button, it will show the game viewer with the option for audio, mlb tv, and possibly highlight plays.

Clicking audio will not spawn a new window, mostly because I think mplayer is itself pure command line, and therefore needs something to interface with it when there is no video window. I didnt change the way I launch mplayer, it just did it that way. The stream will take a few seconds to load, and closing the game viewer will stop the stream.

Clicking on a highlight play on the right will spawn a new mplayer window and hide the game viewer, so you can interact with mplayer atleast somewhat like you can when you use it to watch a movie from the memory. Again it may take a bit to launch, as it caches the stream.

The mlbtv link should work the same way, but i presently have no way to confirm this. At that point, problems with the way the video is encoded, served, delivered, and decoded to your tablet begin to dominate. I feel that there shouldnt be any technical difference between top plays streams and live streams, but I dont know what mlb does for it.

There are various settings that you can change for mplayer, but i think I've read about a buggy wmv decoder being present in rc1, I'll have to see what I can find.

Is there anyone else who only subscribes to the audio and can check if audio streams are working for some one besides me, and therefore confirm a bug with mlbtv subscribers not being able to access audio streams?

The above part will probably become the basis for my README in the next few days.
 

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#33
Originally Posted by hvacengi View Post
So here is what should happen:
On the first boot ever (uninstall the program and run "rm -a /home/user/.mlb" to rmove all traces) the config window should pop up shortly after the message "loading mlbviewer"
Honestly, I didn't go this far because it is working pretty well so far.

Upon typing in your user name and password, the program should create the config file in "/home/user/.mlb" and then load the settings and gui.
I am certainly getting the gui!

You should see today's schedule, with various games disabled because they haven't played yet, or are in transition (switching from pregame to in progress, saving the game archive, etc.)
This too works, and is much improved from the fist pass.

When you click on the game button, it will show the game viewer with the option for audio, mlb tv, and possibly highlight plays.
Yep, I see the game viewer and buttons. Also the highlight plays on yesterdays games are there and work well. Mplayer loads and runs very smoothly. Nicely done.
Clicking audio will not spawn a new window, mostly because I think mplayer is itself pure command line, and therefore needs something to interface with it when there is no video window. I didnt change the way I launch mplayer, it just did it that way. The stream will take a few seconds to load, and closing the game viewer will stop the stream.
That's what I figured, but alas, I'm still getting the "Error fetching URL" popup window when I click on audio, ie no sound yet.
Clicking on a highlight play on the right will spawn a new mplayer window and hide the game viewer, so you can interact with mplayer atleast somewhat like you can when you use it to watch a movie from the memory. Again it may take a bit to launch, as it caches the stream.
Oh yes, this works, as above, nicely.
The mlbtv link should work the same way, but i presently have no way to confirm this. At that point, problems with the way the video is encoded, served, delivered, and decoded to your tablet begin to dominate. I feel that there shouldnt be any technical difference between top plays streams and live streams, but I dont know what mlb does for it.
Right, that's what I figured. There's only so much you can do on the IT 'side'. After all, it has a lot to do with the way the mlb.com 'packages' the feed, so to speak. You'd think, technically, the streams would be the same, but apparently not. I appreciate your effort, but in the end, it may have more to do with the way it is sent out than the way it is received.

There are various settings that you can change for mplayer, but i think I've read about a buggy wmv decoder being present in rc1, I'll have to see what I can find.

Is there anyone else who only subscribes to the audio and can check if audio streams are working for some one besides me, and therefore confirm a bug with mlbtv subscribers not being able to access audio streams?
Is is possible that I have only subscribed for the audio? Of course, I didn't pay for anything, so perhaps it has something to do with my subscription, and not the app.
The above part will probably become the basis for my README in the next few days.
Documentation is *always* appreciated, thank you!
 
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#34
Success! Sort of!!

1. I opened emelfm2, hit the 'H' button to find the hidden files, found '.mlb', opened that and found the 'config'.

2. Opened X terminal and:

sudo gainroot [enter] <this is an action, not more writing on the command line

rm /home/user/.mlb/config [enter]

3. Went back to emelfm2 to check and, yeah. No more 'config' file.

4. Opened up MBLviewer, entered my login and password, went to a game I knew was in progress, hit 'MLB TV' and sat back to see what happens.

5. Window opened up and the action started! WheEeEeEeEeEeE.

Except it's so pixelated that you really can't see anything, even at 400 as a bitrate.

Strangely, when I closed the application down and reopened, the username and password weren't permanently saved in the 'config' file... .

But at least I got to this far :-)
 
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#35
Originally Posted by Greyghost View Post
Is is possible that I have only subscribed for the audio? Of course, I didn't pay for anything, so perhaps it has something to do with my subscription, and not the app.
My appologies, I never thought to mention that the game day audio and the mlb tv services are both paid subscriptions to access the season.
You can see the comparison here.

I only bought the audio, $15 is nothing compared to the money I spend actually going to games through out the season, and I can easily use it while doing other things. The video costs a bit too much for my taste, and I really wouldn't be able to watch it enough to make it worth while. Now, if it were to work better on the tablet, that would be a different story...

EDIT: Or did you mean that you have the trial version?

Last edited by hvacengi; 2008-06-09 at 01:05.
 
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#36
Yeah... but isn't there a promo at mlb.tv or mlb.com. Sign up for a month, get 5 days free, if you don't like it after the five initial days and you cancel your subscription, they give you your money back.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/subscriptions...ateId=HOMEPAGE
 
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#37
Yup, but i'm not gonna waste the free five days untill a certain late month of the season when I hope to be glued to watching these games ;-)

I'm looking up the stuff I saw on mplayer right now, so maybe I'll have a solution to have you try out soon.
 
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#38
Oh contraire!

Methinks the promo is for a limited time. Probably because the actual Premium subscribers (like me are so royally POed that yahoo was brought in to sell incredibly irritating ads during the breaks *after* most of us had already bought our season subscription that they have to do *something* to entice new Premium subscribers to replace those ones who'd threatened or did drop the service.

More reason to peeve off the original Premium subscribers; give the service away for FREE for a part of a month.

Blech.

In other words, don't trust anything these boobs say. Grab the offer while it's hot (but tomorrow, of course, since there's only one game presently playing).
 
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#39
Oh how I do love my corprate america, and it's nickle and diming...

The truly ironic part is that if they spent less money working on flash and silverlight based solutions for protecting their precsious streams, they could reach a relativly new and untaped market segment. Think about the fact that my port of this program was done to this point in only a week, and the base that I used for the backend as been made soley by the community.

All mlb really has to do is tell people that they can use these kind of applications (they don't even have to distribute them, or write them, just let the community have the reins), still require user authentication so that they don't have every thing pirated, and then slap a logo on every mobile device that supports python. If I thought it was valuable before when I carried my laptop around school and now for listening in my interior office, imagine how many people would be excited with the prospect of getting their favorite teams any where they can find wifi. It would be even better if wimax were able to sustain atleast the audio feed. MLB has an opportunity here to be the first major sport to offer their service to be truly mobile, 7 days a week.

I don't know if you're feeling like messing with more of the internal workings of your system, but you might try installing this update to mplayer since it is suposed to really improve wmv9 (which is what mlb uses). I'm gonna try it myself, but I won't be able to test on a live feed utill Tuesday if I decide to sign up for the demo. Like I said earlier though, that's probably a bad idea to get me hooked...
 

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#40
But... but... I'm scared.

Patches and SVNs and mediafire downloads and... other scarey stuff.

Um... I'll just wait timidly behind your back while *you* do it, 'k?

And you may find you don't even get hooked on the visuals. Of course, with the Mariners already being 15 games off, the only visuals I'm really looking for now is when Ichero finds out McLaren is OUT.

Lord, what a lousy season so far... .
 
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