Ok, thanks for checking on the iceweasel bug. Im waiting to install the new tar ball that you compile, the one with icewm. Thanks for all the hard work. Also, Im testing my xp .img file with my psp right now, i will see how it comes out. the img file is about 500mb, i left room in it so i can install halo or something ( hell, i man can dream cant he?)

Hi, anybody with IceWM experience, where's the menu file for IceWM? I thought it would be in /usr/share/icewm, but that menu file is just a sample, and it bears no resemblance to the menu used in the actual WM. Same goes for the toolbar file. The preferences file, on the other hand, is actually used. There seems to be some system-wide menu thing going on, but I don't know where to look for that... any ideas? People familiar with Debian?

Just a quick screenshot of my IceWM setup for the chroot:

Looks like your IceWM is coming along well! I *think* a lot of the menus are rooted somewhere - Enlightenment's menu editor (GUI!) has stubs for a few external menus, which I am likewise confused with locating.

Found one really really big win for Enlightenment - it's virtual pager allows pretty easy handling of windows that are too large.

One question - has anyone gotten SDL Audio to work with Debian at all?

Yes, you have to use the esound option... I got it working with the "abuse" game...

As far as I know, configuration files are in the [home]/.icewm directory.
In my rudypuppy linux under .icewm I have these files: menu, preferences, keys, programs, startup (a script), theme, toolbar and winoptions.
I can send you those if needed.

I have tried export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=esd without any luck so far - is there some other setting somewhere I am missing? Depending on the program, some complain about not being able to open /dev/dsp (which indeed doesn't exist).

Update: Not sure what I did - but milkytracker suddenly decided to make noise!

Those are user-specific files that override the system defaults. I figured out where the system defaults are located in Debian IceWM. For future reference:
I'm not yet sure where the active "keys" and "winoptions" are located. These files are in both directories.

I'm really really close to having a new version. I'm just packaging everything up, then testing the package, especially the image downloader script that I modified from penguinbait.

I've done some test installs and uninstalls and re-installs and botched installs, and I'm ready to go live, just need to gather my strength to write up the big post with all the instructions and the FAQ and the notes etc etc etc... This is a huge improvement, the scripts are way better now, the Debian install is not hacked in any way, and the IceWM desktop and automated image installer work well...

The new image is pretty big, unfortunately, it took the installer more than half an hour to download the image and another very long time to unpack the image. But that's not bad if that's the biggest problem.

I think the biggest problem will be the fact that everyone will complain about what dogs these big desktop apps are. They just go so slowly! Especially Firefox.

Yes - I have to admit that I grabbed the App image just to say I did and ran the software, however unfortunately they are, in reality, a bit to heavy for our dear old tablets. While it is definitely cool to see the OpenOffice logo flash up on my n800 (and I got a really good chance to see it), I cannot really see ever using it for anything productive due to the speed.

With that said, I think your efforts still are wonderful, Qole. I have had my n800 in my hands for more straight blocks of time than I have for quite some time, playing with the various options available under Debian. I have found while the modern apps run way too slow, there is has been a serious class re-union to the older apps of yester-years going on, apps that were written for double digit Mhz machines that utterly scream on our Nokia. I think these Gems of old likely will be the real strength of Debian on our Nokias.

Finally, it's done.