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Well, I'd be hesitant to suppose anything's wrong with the browser on the basis of Apple's claims to be standards-compliant. Try running validators on it yet?

(FWIW, it redirects me, too, with FF3 on the desktop; I assume Bundyo's right, and none but UKers will necessarily be able to test this; a full test will probably require a login, too.)
 
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For those getting redirected to the me.com promotion, this is undoubtedly because you, like I, do not own mobileme (or .mac) subscriptions. That is also why merely posting the url will, unfortunately, not get very good answers.
 
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Yes, but how does it know whether you have a subscription... cookies would work, but it seems there should be a login box or something for the first time subscribers use a new browser, and I'm not even seeing that.
 
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Originally Posted by Picklesworth View Post
For those getting redirected to the me.com promotion, this is undoubtedly because you, like I, do not own mobileme (or .mac) subscriptions. That is also why merely posting the url will, unfortunately, not get very good answers.
I have a subscription, it redirects me.

The issue seems to be that the me.com service is currently down.
 
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The service is now up but the browser on the tablet says (paraphrased),

"we recommend the following browsers.....
Safari 3 or later
Firefox 2 or later

Press OK and it takes you back to the same screen. One cannot access webmail at all.

I suspect the problem is with the browser's support of AJAX and other modern standards. After all Yahoo! Mail (new version) has issues too.

I can't help but feel a little defensive presently at my thread. Many on this site seem ready to assume all tablet users are linux root users but we're not. Some of us are plain old joe bloggs from the streets who have bought a tablet to access their favourite websites. webmail.mac.com was mine, now it's replacement is unavailable and I have to find a desktop with a browser that is fine with the standards of modern pages.

Again, I ask, how does one get in touch with the browser team to ask them if they are coming out with updates more often?

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Originally Posted by siralien View Post
I suspect the problem is with the browser's support of AJAX and other modern standards. After all Yahoo! Mail (new version) has issues too.
This is entirely on Apple's head.

E-mail them about their lame user-agent checks.
 

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I suspect the problem is that Apple is being evil.

Why would the browser being non-compliant with standards (of which AJAX is not one, btw) cause Apple's server to send you to the same page repeatedly?

The browser does not say those things of its own accord, but because Apple detected the UA as not-approved, and sent you a different page recommending a different browser; if they won't let you past that, you'll probably need to change the UA reported to one of the allowed ones.
Originally Posted by siralien View Post
Delivering different versions of websites for different browsers is old school 20th century thinking to help IE render.
Or to try to get people to use Safari, perhaps.

(Have you tried any validation of Yahoo Mail? Without knowledge that it is standards compliant, it's not any better evidence that MicroB is the problem.)
 
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Ok Siralien, you need to read this slow. With the error you are getting, it is not your tablets fault, or the programmers. When you go to a site, it asks your computer who you are and your computer tells it the truth, and some times people, i.e. apple, MS, ... do not like your answer and they tell the page not to load. It has nothing to do with standards, it has to do with apple coding the page to require a certain browser. Now you can tell your tablet to lie and report it is a desktop version of FF3 by changing the 'user agent'. But stop trying to blame this in the maemo devs'.
 

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There isn't any evidence, as far as I can tell, that Apple are forcing people to use a browser based on their choice but rather on the availability of features within the chosen browser it cannot find.

Noone is blaming Maemo devs but they seem so reluctant to allow one to contact them and why or where should I change my browser to make it load a page it should do normally? Isn't that what testers are supposed to do and then the final product does it properly and automatically? That's what seperates a beta product from a finished one. The user does not need to do any more than he/she must to load a page.

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Originally Posted by siralien View Post
There isn't any evidence, as far as I can tell, that Apple are forcing people to use a browser based on their choice but rather on the availability of features within the chosen browser it cannot find.
Believe whatever you want, but your own perceptions don't really have a whole lot to do with reality here.

I think it's time to move on from this thread. Everybody who actually cares to know why me.com doesn't work with MicroB knows what they need to know.

Originally Posted by siralien View Post
Noone is blaming Maemo devs but they seem so reluctant to allow one to contact them . . .
Not that they actually do this (there's plenty of information available on who to contact about what), but in this case, I wouldn't blame them if they didn't want to get an email from you. Call up Nokia support if you really think this is Nokia's problem.
 

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