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2008-09-22
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TA-t3, you have Palm devices and a Nokia tablet plus a cellphone ?
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2008-09-22
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1) it will have functionality that I'll have to pay for, but I don't need.
-- The N800 and the N810 already have things like that (useless chat camera, useless built-in GPS, useless FM radio on the N800). One persons trash is another person's treasure (and,yeah, the 3 things I mentioned _are_trash_). Yet, having them in the device broadens the NIT's market, making it more likely to be a long term success. Same with addding 3G data, or voice+SMS/MMS.
2) if it's an external 3G radio, I can use it with more than just my tablet.
-- Who says you wont be able to share your tablet's 3G feed via wifi? or Bluetooth? I don't know that Nokia _will_ build that into the NIT, but I certainly hope they do. And hopefully it's something the community could add to the NIT if they don't.
3) What would I want with a device that's somehow limited to e.g. Europe?
-- Who says it'll be limited to Europe? (or NAM, or Asia?) Maybe it'll be triband? or quadband (T-Mobile-USA). Or even if the HSPA is single-band, maybe it'll have EDGE/GPRS that's quadband. Not ideal, but still usable.
-- The N800 and the N810 already have things like that (useless chat camera, useless built-in GPS, useless FM radio on the N800). One persons trash is another person's treasure (and,yeah, the 3 things I mentioned _are_trash_). Yet, having them in the device broadens the NIT's market, making it more likely to be a long term success. Same with addding 3G data, or voice+SMS/MMS.
2) if it's an external 3G radio, I can use it with more than just my tablet.
-- Who says you wont be able to share your tablet's 3G feed via wifi? or Bluetooth? I don't know that Nokia _will_ build that into the NIT, but I certainly hope they do. And hopefully it's something the community could add to the NIT if they don't.
3) What would I want with a device that's somehow limited to e.g. Europe?
-- Who says it'll be limited to Europe? (or NAM, or Asia?) Maybe it'll be triband? or quadband (T-Mobile-USA). Or even if the HSPA is single-band, maybe it'll have EDGE/GPRS that's quadband. Not ideal, but still usable.
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2008-09-22
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Originally Posted by anthonybuchanan
meh, i would not mind if it came with something similar to the one used in OX "laptop" tho
Next you'll want to swap out your color display for a b/w for longer battery life and then swap out your bluetooth or swapout your wifi or your RAM module.
as for bluetooth of wifi, no need. backwards compatiblity and a single standard (except those silly wifi channels).
and while i cant swap the ram module, i can make my N800 keep pace with most solid state media players out there in terms of storage space, if i feel like spending the money to do so. twin 16GB SD cards anyone?
think of me like the geek with the messenger bag from die hard 4. only not so hollywood good-lookin...
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2008-09-22
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
The FM radio came with the Bluetooth chipset, so that didn't cost me anything. The GPS Nokia probably got for next to nothing (if not nothing) from TI, so that didn't cost me much either (well, I don't own an N810 . . .), and the cameras? No, not much cost there, either.
-- The N800 and the N810 already have things like that (useless chat camera, useless built-in GPS, useless FM radio on the N800). One persons trash is another person's treasure (and,yeah, the 3 things I mentioned _are_trash_). Yet, having them in the device broadens the NIT's market, making it more likely to be a long term success. Same with addding 3G data, or voice+SMS/MMS.
An HSPA radio on the other hand? That costs something. Both in hardware costs, and certification costs with carriers and lots of different government agencies.
So, no, your examples don't really work here.
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2008-09-22
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
a) "cheap" and "not much cost" are not "free", which means people paid for them.
The FM radio came with the Bluetooth chipset, so that didn't cost me anything. The GPS Nokia probably got for next to nothing (if not nothing) from TI, so that didn't cost me much either (well, I don't own an N810 . . .), and the cameras? No, not much cost there, either.
An HSPA radio on the other hand? That costs something. Both in hardware costs, and certification costs with carriers and lots of different government agencies.
So, no, your examples don't really work here.
b) You don't think that Nokia will have similar deals for the 3G chipset? Cuz, you know, they make their own 3G chipsets, don't they?
And, the point is: it still fits the argument. The tablets still have crap in them that some people don't want and/or need, yet we still pay for them. This is just the next one of those "only a subset* of customers need/want it" features. Welcome to the real world, where anything you don't built yourself is more than likely to have design considerations you wouldn't have picked.
(* and, I'm willing to bet lunch that it's a feature that the majority of the potential market wants, despite the vocal members here who don't want it)
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2008-09-22
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Originally Posted by tso
Exactly. I can use my phone as a modem for any of my (three :-) tablets, or my laptop. I even tethered my desktop once while my DSL line was down. And now that I have a capable phone (E51) I even use it to get online in a pinch, for certain things it can be faster than taking out the tablet.
btw, i had a tought on the subject of internal vs external 3G radio.
with a external one, one can choose what device to go online with. ones tablet, ones laptop, maybe even ones desktop, or maybe even something borrowed from a friend. anything with bluetooth or usb will work, in theory...
All with a single SIM card and data plan. And most of the time I'm *really* glad that my 3G modem is on a different battery...
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2008-09-22
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
Who's forcing you to buy it???
1) it will have functionality that I'll have to pay for, but I don't need.
I'll help ya hunt the perp down.
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2008-09-22
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Some of you guys act as if you own the company and want a custome device just for you. No functions you didnt ask for when you had it made.
Well what about the Paris Hiltons of the world ?
Well what about the Paris Hiltons of the world ?
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2008-09-22
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Originally Posted by Texrat
I don't want to move to another platform. No other platform offers me what Nokia does with Maemo. If Nokia only ships the N900 in a with-HSPA flavor, then they're basically forcing me to buy the damn modem.
Who's forcing you to buy it???
I want the N900, I just don't want it with that goddamn cellular modem. . . .
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
I want the n900 only if it has hspa in it.
I don't want to move to another platform. No other platform offers me what Nokia does with Maemo. If Nokia only ships the N900 in a with-HSPA flavor, then they're basically forcing me to buy the damn modem.
I want the N900, I just don't want it with that goddamn cellular modem. . . .
Now what.....
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