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Originally Posted by qole
If general public may be defined as those with quick trigger fingers, I'm definitely going with the Pandora. But the second batch is probably gonna go mighty quick. (Which makes me think Pandora + woot! = pope-hat... but that's another thought.)
Thank you very much for your informed optimism, Benson. I needed that. As for the Pandora, anybody want to start a pool, "Which will be available to the general public first, the N900 or Pandora?"
N900 may be available, in quantity, before the third round of Pandoras, though.
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2008-09-24
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Originally Posted by Benson
While the 3355 is 3G, it is only UMTS mode - which is far less than HSDPA and has a bad latency.
Yeah, but there are also dumbphones (e.g. my Nokia 3555, which is S40) with 3G. What you'd really use it for, besides tethering, is beyond me. The display is horribly low-res, the browser is horribly pathetic, and it reminds me why so many dupes think the iPhone invented the practical mobile web. (I've only tried the built-in browser, as I've been unable to get Opera mini working on it so far, but haven't tried hard.) The whole point of it, to me, was a modem.
Obiously Nokia is targetting the N900 with HSPA since anything less hardly adds to the VOIP capability.
I have used a UMTS phone with my N810 and seriosuly, in USA at least you cant use a UMTS for a Gizmo video call in any decent way. At least a simple voice acll is still possible but not too good.
A true HSDPA phone on the other hand can be used for a video call. And any HSDPA phones are all smartphones - and costly. So the cheap dumbphone as a addon to the IT is not a very valid point - at least not yet.
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2008-09-24
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Originally Posted by geneven
How low could Nokia go with the N800? I've lost track of the current lowball pricing, since I bought at $400, but anything substantially under $200 might have a big impact. Better yet, go $99 and take the world by storm, and everyone would be pantingly ready for the N900 when it gets here.
They can't build it for less than 200-250$. Just check what the competition costs.
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2008-09-24
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Originally Posted by SD69
I dont want to predict anything here (I doubt Nokia has a sane vision ATM, otherwise they wouldn't completely withdraw from the market right now by not offering up-to-date devices), but: The one and probably only thing that makes the tablets different from most competing and semi-similar platforms is the fact that they are, in fact, small desktop PCs and you can port desktop applications with little, sometimes no effort.
The "desktop paradigm" you've described is important, but it is important because it is needed to foster FUTURE software development designed with the NIT platform in mind. I certainly hope the primary goal of Maemo 5 is not to enable reuse of existing desktop apps (ugh!).
This is the only reason why I bought the thing in the first place. I didn't want a "mobile device" that's crippled because some design guru said mobile interfaces have to be restricted. I wanted everything I have on my desktop, only smaller. That's what I've got.
(This might not be what other people want. Others might want UIs made only for mobile use and applications that are simple enough to work with these UIs. No problem - there's a number of such devices out there, go get them.)
Now, it seems that at least technology-wise Nokia stays with the desktop-experience here. Listen to Ari Jaaksis keynote. My interpretation is that you gain little from using desktop frameworks if you dont do it because you want to run desktop applications on the device. So I hope we'll see future devices and generations of Maemo moving even closer to the desktop. In an ideal world, every popular desktop-application should be in the extras repository, properly hildonized.
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2008-09-24
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
You can. The N800/N810 supports multiple sip accounts with the built-in software. You can have as many accounts as you want (ok, les than about 64000), with as many phone numbers as you want.
if I could use the NIT besides (or instead of) my current VoIP phone that'd be great.
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2008-09-24
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
Google's android does.
Yes, Linux has capability-based security modules, but they're hardly ever used, and I'm not aware of any embedded device running Linux which does use it.
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2008-09-24
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Originally Posted by Jerome
Android may run on top of linux, but I would not call it linux based.
Google's android does.
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2008-09-24
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Originally Posted by Jerome
Nope, I can't. When I try to phone I immediately get disconnected. Using STUN doesn't solve the problem. When I use my neighbors WiFi it works, but that isn't ideal. I'll probably opt for an ethernet-based phone, or a WiFi based phone.
You can. The N800/N810 supports multiple sip accounts with the built-in software. You can have as many accounts as you want (ok, les than about 64000), with as many phone numbers as you want.
Also, the N8x0 doesn't provide 24/7 connectivity while out of home.
Its wise Android uses capability-based security. I wonder how Nokia will cope with this on Linux. Since Android runs Java, in theory many Java applications will run on it. Even some Java applications used on Symbian.
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2008-09-24
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
Android doesn't run Java... it runs a language that is similar to java on a custom VM.
Its wise Android uses capability-based security. I wonder how Nokia will cope with this on Linux. Since Android runs Java, in theory many Java applications will run on it. Even some Java applications used on Symbian.
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