Originally Posted by Jerome

My e51 can run voip over hsdpa (and apparently vodafone did not yet block it). I tried once, the battery was exhausted in about 5 hours. It has a 950 mAh battery.

Originally Posted by Jerome

What? They don't have anything? What have they been doing all that time? Let me recall you the timeline:
-end 2005: 770
-end 2006: N800 (actually early 2007)
-end 2007: N810

Originally Posted by qole

I agree about the latter, but I beg to differ on your definition of "sane".

Originally Posted by Jerome

And if they have not even started, we are talking end 2009 at best (manufacturing delays, etc...). Yet, we now have real competitors like: iPhone, Android, eeepc, etc...

Am I the only one to smell the stench of vaporware? At best, the maemo division is severely understaffed (which is never a good sign). At worst....

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The Commission therefore proposed on 23 September 2008:
* To bring down the prices for text messages sent while travelling in another EU country.
* To ensure that citizens are kept adequately informed of the charges that apply for data roaming services.

[...]

What kind of changes are being proposed?

Euro-SMS Tariff introduced: from 1 July 2009 sending an SMS from abroad would cost no more than 11 cents (excluding VAT). Receiving an SMS in another EU country will remain free of charge.

Improved transparency: customers travelling to another Member State should receive an automated message of the charges that apply for data roaming services. On 1 July 2010, operators must provide customers with the opportunity to determine in advance how much they want to spend before the service is "cut-off".

Wholesale caps for data roaming: the Commission also proposed a €1 per megabyte safeguard limit for wholesale data roaming fees, to make them more predictable for operators, stimulate competition and enable even more transparent retail prices.

Further reductions on Eurotariff for voice calls: the prices for making calls would decrease from 43 cents on 1 July 2009, to 40 cents, 37 cents and 34 cents for each of the following years. The price for receiving a call would decrease from 19 cents on 1 July 2009 to 16 cents, 13 cents and 10 cents for each of the following years. Consumers would also benefit from per-second billing after 30 seconds for calls made, and per-second billing throughout for calls received to ensure that consumers do not face any ‘hidden costs’ when they are roaming. This is expected to increase consumers savings by over 20%.

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles

A comment I was quick to dismiss before (but seems a lot more relevant now) is that none of these devices was the first device from Nokia to use these chips. It was always Nokia phones using them before the tablets, and we haven't seen any OMAP3 phones yet.

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles

Well, partly, waiting on TI, since they wont have consumer-device usable OMAP3 silicon out until at least November. Let me break the the timeline down by CPU:

-end 2005: OMAP1710
-end 2006: OMAP2420
-end 2007: OMAP2420
-mid 2009: OMAP3430

A comment I was quick to dismiss before (but seems a lot more relevant now) is that none of these devices was the first device from Nokia to use these chips. It was always Nokia phones using them before the tablets, and we haven't seen any OMAP3 phones yet.

Originally Posted by SD69

I think the first use of OMAP 1710 (with proof it could drive a large touch screen) in Nokia was the 7710 in 2004, but I could be mistaken.

Is that there much of a difference in the architecture of the OMAP3 that Nokia has to wait for test samples? Isn't the beagleboard sufficient? I have to believe that the N900 is primarily waiting on SW development, not the HW.