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alephito is offline alephito
2008-09-29 , 21:49
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#161
Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
Most of the issues in this thread seem to be users who have:
  1. Changed the way the X server works (sliderotate)
  2. Installed a new kernel or initfs
  3. Are booting from SD card
  4. Have installed powermenu
  5. ...
I haven't done any of them.

Maybe 5...
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2008-09-29 , 21:51
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#162
Flashed... then got infinite reboot I don't use power menu or anything that modifies the below:

Most of the issues in this thread seem to be users who have:

1. Changed the way the X server works (sliderotate)
2. Installed a new kernel or initfs
3. Are booting from SD card
4. Have installed powermenu
5. ...

Oh well.. I gave in and just reflashed the whole damn thing.. works fine now. Although microb doesn't seem amazingly faster to me.
 
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2008-09-29 , 21:52
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Well, I've completed the SSU successfully -- I had Sliderotate, was booting from SD, and had a good chunk of SDK installed to boot. No problems; I just updated the offending packages (four I'd held back for the SDK, and xserver-xomap which was odd-versioned for xrandr) with
Code:
apt-get install <packages>
(and told it yes, remove the packages depending on the old versions.)
Installed the update, waited for the reboot, flashed my initfs.bootmenu.jffs2 (with flasher-3.0), rebooted to the SD, and it finished nicely. Since it wouldn't let me install until I resolved the conflicting packages, I had no option to make things fail...

Honestly, I expected worse from this thread.
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#164
Originally Posted by fpp View Post
There must be more factors at play here than just that one. For instance I never leave my tablets connected permanently, only on-demand (a habit left over from old 770 days :-). I had used the N800 for a while early this morning, then left it at home (I use the N810 on the go, still Chinook).
Tonight I connected it manually to my WLAN and within a few seconds had the flashing icon...
I am starting to think the 24 hour window applies globally, ie, YMMV. So it possibly depends on other factors as you say, one being your timezone, most recent connect time, etc.
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2008-09-29 , 21:53
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#165
Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Right, the tablet typically has to be online for 24 hours straight for auto alerts to work.
The recurrence interval in alarmd for hildon-update-notifier is 1440 minutes (24 hours), but it doesn't appear to me (or from the behaviour I've seen) that this 24 hours needs to be spent contiguously online.

To check when the next update will fire on your device, you can paste this into a Terminal (doesn't have to be root):

Code:
perl -ne '$f |= /check_for_updates/; next unless $f; if (/name="time" type="int64">(\d+)/) { @d = localtime($1); print "Update check time: $d[1] minutes past $d[2]\n"; exit }' /var/lib/alarmd/alarm_queue.xml
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2008-09-29 , 21:55
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#166
Originally Posted by maacruz View Post
In short, this update is a disaster.
Worked just fine for me and many others. It sounds more like you did some unsupported stuff and are suffering the consequences now.
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2008-09-29 , 21:56
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#167
Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
Most of the issues in this thread seem to be users who have:
  1. Changed the way the X server works (sliderotate)
  2. Installed a new kernel or initfs
  3. Are booting from SD card
  4. Have installed powermenu
  5. ...

These things change the way the tablet works. Nokia aren't going to be able to test and support these things. It's up to the people who package these add-ons to find a way of safely reverting back to the previous behaviour if they find the world they're inhabiting gone wrong. Or to disable auto-update. Or to better inform their users.
I run linux since the mid 90's (first slackware and then suse) and never ever had issues like this.
How on earth can a package install/uninstall fail because a post install script doesn't find some file or can't perform an action like to kill an already non-running daemon? Or because a rc.d link is or isn't active? Or, still much worse, because some user owned file is or isn't somewhere?
That's plainly incredible
 

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#168
Originally Posted by Mikroft View Post
Although microb doesn't seem amazingly faster to me.
I wouldn't use the word "amazingly" either, although I did say "snappier".

I've noticed that sites that used to frustrate me (like amazon.com) no longer do. The difference appears to be in the way images are cached-- microb is loading the bulk of the page now and then loading images, which is more useful for me. I am not sure if I'm seeing actual code change, though, or just a fluke.

Anyway, the speed improvements for me are noticeable, but not necessarily remarkable. And some of the speed-up could be mere perception IF the html elements really are loading differently.
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2008-09-29 , 22:00
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#169
I can confirm that the new version of initfs_flasher works as advertised. This means that the SD Boot problem can be considered solved.

Good night and good luck!
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2008-09-29 , 22:02
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#170
Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
Are your flash and sd card partitions same..... Do they have the same installed apps?

I am asking this because my flash partition is pretty basic without any installed apps where as my n810 internal memory partition has all the up to date apps and tweaks

What about you?
This is precisely my situation. I used penguinbait's deb to clone the OS (and set up the bootmenu) almost as soon as I got my N810 and have been running from the internal card ever since. Has anyone with this configuration updated successfully, and if so, could you let us know what you did?
 
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