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2008-10-10 , 13:52
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#11
Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
Possible reasons:
  • In some locations, using open WiFi networks without permission is illegal.
  • A tablet user may want alter his/her behavior (e.g. not log onto certain IM services) when not on a trusted connection.
I don't agree using open wireless is illegal -- AFAIK (in the UK) it's not proven either way and is a religious argument.

I do agree trusted connection is an issue, but what open connections do you trust? None of the Internet is trustworthy.
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2008-10-10 , 14:05
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Originally Posted by fragos View Post
...Open access points aren't really always open -- some require login like the conditional free access at Starbucks. With the driver invading up to the application layer I'm not sure how this could be automated.
True -- and the maemo appears to work at a high level, only maintaining a connection if it was made by the connection manager application.

My script, using wireless tools, would try to determine if it was connected to a network with a gateway and DNS, possibly see if a page requests gets a landing page or the one requested.
 
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2008-10-10 , 14:15
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#13
Originally Posted by ptaffs View Post
I don't agree using open wireless is illegal -- AFAIK it's not proven either way and is a religious argument.
That depends on which country you live in. You're in Nottingham according to your setting, as far as I'm aware of UK is _the_ place where it's been stated illegal to use an open access point without permission.

I don't live there though.
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2008-10-10 , 14:21
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Originally Posted by ptaffs View Post
I don't agree using open wireless is illegal -- AFAIK it's not proven either way and is a religious argument.
This issue has been discussed in these fora several times previously. Whether or not we think using an open WiFi network without permission is acceptable, people have been prosecuted in some locations for doing so. And yes, in other locations, some courts have ruled that hopping on an unsecured WiFi connection without permission violates no laws. So, yes, while there's no worldwide agreement by courts on this issue, it is true that were the tablets preset to automatically use any available open WiFi network, some tablet users would potentially be at risk of arrest depending upon where they live, work, and travel.
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2008-10-10 , 16:02
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talking about starbucks.. does anyone knows how to bypass that login %$#@ I mean.. I'm already paying 5 bucks on a little coffee and still have to pay for internet..
 
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2008-10-10 , 17:21
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Originally Posted by renanholanda View Post
talking about starbucks.. does anyone knows how to bypass that login %$#@ I mean.. I'm already paying 5 bucks on a little coffee and still have to pay for internet..
yep, if you get yourself a Starbucks card, and register it on their site you get complimentary wireless when you buy coffee there.

check it out:

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/wireless.asp
 

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2008-10-10 , 17:27
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Originally Posted by renanholanda View Post
does anyone knows how to bypass that login
Theoretically*, you could probably tunnel through DNS or pretend everything's worth a thousand words. It'd be more honest of you to pay Boingo Mobile $7.95/month though.


* I haven't tried either of these tricks. Heck, I've never even been to a Starbucks. There's probably a Starbucks around here somewhere, but I know not where.

EDIT: Veereihen6 has the best idea.
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2008-10-10 , 23:19
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
Theoretically*, you could probably tunnel through DNS or pretend everything's worth a thousand words. It'd be more honest of you to pay Boingo Mobile $7.95/month though.


* I haven't tried either of these tricks. Heck, I've never even been to a Starbucks. There's probably a Starbucks around here somewhere, but I know not where.

EDIT: Veereihen6 has the best idea.
$7.95 seems a small enough fee to both be morally and legally comfortable as well as insuring some kind of access when we're away from our base location. We all like free but this small fee is acceptable when you're already paying full boat for home base access like I do.
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