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2008-10-19
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Nice! 
But... *bug filed*
Thanks again for a great program.
But... *bug filed*
Thanks again for a great program.
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2008-10-19
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identified, thanks. umm until I get a patch, refrain from using fullstops in your names 
Last edited by lcuk; 2008-10-19 at 16:12.
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2008-10-19
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Great job Gary !
No problems installing & running under Chinook (N810) and latest Diablo SSU (N800).
Sadly it also installs on good old 770 with OS2008HE, but fails to start. I can send you the console output if you want, but I guess it isn't worth the bother, the X stuff is just too old. Better to badger Nokia for an update :-)
Actually my only beef (not ham :-) has nothing to do with the software : it's just that writing on today's hardware doesn't *feel* like writing... Glass smoothness, digitizer limitations, the writing doesn't come out right... what we need is e-paper that feels like paper ! :-)
No problems installing & running under Chinook (N810) and latest Diablo SSU (N800).
Sadly it also installs on good old 770 with OS2008HE, but fails to start. I can send you the console output if you want, but I guess it isn't worth the bother, the X stuff is just too old. Better to badger Nokia for an update :-)
Actually my only beef (not ham :-) has nothing to do with the software : it's just that writing on today's hardware doesn't *feel* like writing... Glass smoothness, digitizer limitations, the writing doesn't come out right... what we need is e-paper that feels like paper ! :-)
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2008-10-19
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heh fpp,
bang on about the technology - we are close, but not quite there yet.
I also wouldnt feel right writing on glass either, so its a compromise either way.
Send me the log from the 770, it does interest me, and if its something a minor tweak could solve, all the better
bang on about the technology - we are close, but not quite there yet.
I also wouldnt feel right writing on glass either, so its a compromise either way.
Send me the log from the 770, it does interest me, and if its something a minor tweak could solve, all the better
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2008-10-19
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Originally Posted by lcuk
OK, I'll boot it up again and forward it. Not a priority though... :-)
heh fpp,
bang on about the technology - we are close, but not quite there yet.
I also wouldnt feel right writing on glass either, so its a compromise either way.
Send me the log from the 770, it does interest me, and if its something a minor tweak could solve, all the better
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2008-10-20
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Originally Posted by Aisu
Nice!
But... *bug filed*
Thanks again for a great program.
Aisu,
I am not going to be able to resolve this bug immediately.
I have looked at it and diagnosed it and know where the issue lies, however to change the algorithm tonight would take too long and would leave my system unstable for tomorrow.
For now, the next update will include a workaround, and will force the system to replace all dots in user names with underscores (as it does for other characters).
I do have something of an update though.
Before I post this I will apologise now for filling up your memory cards.
http://liqbase.net/#images
This will be included in the released version in a couple of days.
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2008-10-20
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meh, why can't teeth be as easy to manage as linux?
apt-get remove molar
apt-get remove molar
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2008-10-20
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Ok, since I don't really know where is the best place to
give impressions I'll hijack this thread.
Please do take it as my opinion ONLY.
From my point of view - if it's standalone application
1) There are features that matter most - "Do some drawing" and "Grafitti wal"
- all others can be hidden under "Options" menu.
2) When drawing - I can see that buttons are "smart" ie. they
are not pressed during stroke over them so maybe if You detect
that stroke is being drawn on them - they could vanish until the end
of sketching over them.
Since there is not much drawing tools maybe would fun to have
buttons off-screen - called by some HW (but please not "menu" since
on n810 to operate this slided out keyboard is required). Or some tab "buttons"
leading to full - current button view.
3) I understand that in normal paper usage if You draw with a pen
- You don't have eraser but... with pencil - it's obviouse to use that.
I tried to select black colour as an alternative but I've ended up
with "almost black but not so much as the background" colour - so no eraser
for now. Having eraser would let not to implement "undo".
4) Paper size I call myself rather "extensive" user
of Xournal (I do notes on lectures with it - better to say "trying to").
Since handwriting resolution is rather low while writing on glass - I use
zoomed page - paper size I use is A4 format to ease printing.
I see that liqbase crops nicely when presenting on grafitti wall so maybe
extending page size would be possible.
Then there would be need for panning - ie with pressed down Fullscreen button.
5) Just a question about format - PNG is more than OK but would it be hard to
get SVG? This would give much better effect when printing.
Image export is a good move since I wouldn't like put much of my data
to some format that is not readable in any way that on the tablet app
(I've lost too many lecture notes using Memopad+ with it's database system
On the preview there is cam support - would be great if I could take a photo
and do some notes on it.
give impressions I'll hijack this thread.
Please do take it as my opinion ONLY.
From my point of view - if it's standalone application
1) There are features that matter most - "Do some drawing" and "Grafitti wal"
- all others can be hidden under "Options" menu.
2) When drawing - I can see that buttons are "smart" ie. they
are not pressed during stroke over them so maybe if You detect
that stroke is being drawn on them - they could vanish until the end
of sketching over them.
Since there is not much drawing tools maybe would fun to have
buttons off-screen - called by some HW (but please not "menu" since
on n810 to operate this slided out keyboard is required). Or some tab "buttons"
leading to full - current button view.
3) I understand that in normal paper usage if You draw with a pen
- You don't have eraser but... with pencil - it's obviouse to use that.
I tried to select black colour as an alternative but I've ended up
with "almost black but not so much as the background" colour - so no eraser
for now. Having eraser would let not to implement "undo".
4) Paper size I call myself rather "extensive" user
of Xournal (I do notes on lectures with it - better to say "trying to").
Since handwriting resolution is rather low while writing on glass - I use
zoomed page - paper size I use is A4 format to ease printing.
I see that liqbase crops nicely when presenting on grafitti wall so maybe
extending page size would be possible.
Then there would be need for panning - ie with pressed down Fullscreen button.
5) Just a question about format - PNG is more than OK but would it be hard to
get SVG? This would give much better effect when printing.
Image export is a good move since I wouldn't like put much of my data
to some format that is not readable in any way that on the tablet app
(I've lost too many lecture notes using Memopad+ with it's database system
On the preview there is cam support - would be great if I could take a photo
and do some notes on it.
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2008-10-20
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Originally Posted by XTC
Maybe to you thats all that matters, theres plenty of buttons and plenty of uses for each of them.
From my point of view - if it's standalone application
1) There are features that matter most - "Do some drawing" and "Grafitti wal"
- all others can be hidden under "Options" menu.
A slight reorganisation IS taking place however: camera blit test is moving to the front and the book reading is become a single button.
(most of the time you continue reading anyway.. and that has select a book within it)
2) When drawing - I can see that buttons are "smart" ie. they
are not pressed during stroke over them so maybe if You detect
that stroke is being drawn on them - they could vanish until the end
of sketching over them.
Since there is not much drawing tools maybe would fun to have
buttons off-screen - called by some HW (but please not "menu" since
on n810 to operate this slided out keyboard is required). Or some tab "buttons"
leading to full - current button view.
Its something I've considered but not had time to do anything about.
3) I understand that in normal paper usage if You draw with a pen
- You don't have eraser but... with pencil - it's obviouse to use that.
I tried to select black colour as an alternative but I've ended up
with "almost black but not so much as the background" colour - so no eraser
for now. Having eraser would let not to implement "undo".
Also then its got to be accounted for by the undo itself.
will require more time
4) Paper size I call myself rather "extensive" user
of Xournal (I do notes on lectures with it - better to say "trying to").
Since handwriting resolution is rather low while writing on glass - I use
zoomed page - paper size I use is A4 format to ease printing.
I see that liqbase crops nicely when presenting on grafitti wall so maybe
extending page size would be possible.
Then there would be need for panning - ie with pressed down Fullscreen button.
Ive been pondering some notetaking ui elements (automatically determine an area top left/right which after you have drawn most of the way down the page would become enabled to simply continue at the top again and save current page.
I write a hell of a lot of notes in this system and also look for speed.
5) Just a question about format - PNG is more than OK but would it be hard to
get SVG? This would give much better effect when printing.
svg has proto support
http://liqbase.net/liqriver.php
Image export is a good move since I wouldn't like put much of my data
to some format that is not readable in any way that on the tablet app
(I've lost too many lecture notes using Memopad+ with it's database system
On the preview there is cam support - would be great if I could take a photo
and do some notes on it.
picture taking is so much simpler now, adding mustaches to faces is just a bonus, but i'm not rushing this or I'll make a mistake I want this version out, theres LOTS of scope to expand.
I need time to relax first.
Gary
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We have hammered out a lot of the packaging details and have a stable installation which covers everything I wanted for this release.
I have uploaded a version of liqbase (0.1.3) to extras-devel
I request all brave beta testers give this version a run through and ensure we haven't got any last minute major hurdles.
The package is also available directly from liqbase.net which also gives a full overview of the features in this release.
Please use the feature request and bug tracker for reporting enhancements and issues, we don't want this thread getting too large this time
https://garage.maemo.org/projects/liqbase/
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