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2008-10-24
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#92
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Originally Posted by tz1
Sorry, I didn't know about what. What is this red-pill business and where can I read up on it? I encountered it in this thread but don't fully understand it.
The zmapper project at garage hosts the previous (release alpha) version.
Why bother with garage.maemo.org if I will never be able to release the project as it is dependent on a package they keep in a red-pill black hole?
One good part about garage would be access to a publicly hosted subversion server for your sources, though.
Originally Posted by tz1
Basically, I was curious about its implementation and the NMEA support. I'll post about that later after I took your gpsd for a test drive
The original tar file (at the first post) should contain fairly new sources.
The python programs are just python and not obfuscated.
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Hakan
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2008-10-24
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#93
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Originally Posted by tz1
Both the links (the one on your web site and the one in the first posting) are broken (404).
The original tar file (at the first post) should contain fairly new sources.
Regards,
Hakan
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2008-10-24
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#94
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2haken. The red pill mode is a wonderful thing. Use it and you will enter on a trip of unimaginable experiences. Beware long term use will lead to damage of your tablet and brain,
In application manager click the menu then tools | application catalog. choose "new"
replace "http://" with "matrix" then choose "cancel" you will now be presented with a choice of pills, Do not choose the red pill, ever. Once you have chosen red pill you can always return to the default, by choosing the blue pill.
In application manager click the menu then tools | application catalog. choose "new"
replace "http://" with "matrix" then choose "cancel" you will now be presented with a choice of pills, Do not choose the red pill, ever. Once you have chosen red pill you can always return to the default, by choosing the blue pill.
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2008-10-24
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Red Pill enables a special mode in app manager. It is a horrible thing as Nokia should either just make things accessible or visible and work normally (like user packages including backup and restore) with a "view all" or "advanced mode" option. Or just put the packages in archives which are disabled by default like "Extras" - or even require manual installation like "extras-devel".
"Returning to Blue Pill" won't back up the packages installed under red pill, nor correct any versioning or update confusion it causes.
Instead of making something simple or standard they put an easter egg in and say if you ever use it everything is broken (which it is, especially if it ever thinks it needs updates) and thus unsupported even if it is the only way to access certain utilities.
www.zdez.org is "publically hosted" so I'm not sure what you mean by that.
I'll see if I can correct the URLs. I did some maintainance and cleanup and may have broken the links.
http://www.zdez.org/minigpsd_0.30-pre4.tar.gz should work. So should the other links on the main page, which has an updated zmapper.
Last edited by tz1; 2008-10-24 at 15:48. Reason: Fixed the links
"Returning to Blue Pill" won't back up the packages installed under red pill, nor correct any versioning or update confusion it causes.
Instead of making something simple or standard they put an easter egg in and say if you ever use it everything is broken (which it is, especially if it ever thinks it needs updates) and thus unsupported even if it is the only way to access certain utilities.
www.zdez.org is "publically hosted" so I'm not sure what you mean by that.
I'll see if I can correct the URLs. I did some maintainance and cleanup and may have broken the links.
http://www.zdez.org/minigpsd_0.30-pre4.tar.gz should work. So should the other links on the main page, which has an updated zmapper.
Last edited by tz1; 2008-10-24 at 15:48. Reason: Fixed the links
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2008-10-24
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#96
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Originally Posted by tz1
Red Pill enables a special mode in app manager. It is a horrible thing as ...
And I thought that "red pill" was just a in-joke by Matrix fans 
Originally Posted by tz1
Thanks, I downloaded the sources and had a look at them.
http://www.zdez.org/minigpsd_0.30-pre4.tar.gz should work. So should the other links on the main page, which has an updated zmapper.
I was specifically looking for the handling / logging of NMEA data. Could you keep a log file of the full NMEA stream, maybe even in a new file every five minutes like you do with the kmz files? Perhaps even put the NMEA log into the same directory in which you put the kmz?
My intention is to always have a full log of my travels, whether I use Maemo Mapper, the Nokia Map application, Carman, or whatever. Later, I can convert those logs to GPX, KML, OpenStreetMap data, and so on.
I would send you patches, but first I have to understand how build maemo applications
Last edited by hakan; 2008-10-24 at 16:42.
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2008-10-24
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#97
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Originally Posted by computerfreek
Have you gotten a response yet? Of the two GPS programs I use, Maemo-Mapper works great with minigpsd while GPXView does not. It'd be kewl if it did.
The Only program that i use all the time is GPXVIEW and that is not working with minigpsd . I seen there are some setings for it using Configuration editor . But there is not anything about gps . I will see if i can drop an email to who ever made gpxview to see if there is a way to fix it .
I've really gotten to like minigpsd. Thanks TZ1!!
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2008-10-24
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#98
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hakan - Every NMEA sentence is saved in the KML file. You need to unzip the KMZ, but there is a XML comment with a millisecond counter (6 digit?), with a source letter - the internal n810 will have a, the BT has g - and the full NMEA text raw from the device. And the OBD if that is on. And I may add battery, ambient light, temp, iwlist scan output...
cat *.kml | grep \$GP | cut -b 12-999... or something like that can extract the NMEA sentences (mod if you need proprietary sentences too). I plan on writing a Python KML/KMZ playback program which would do something like this.
grog - I'll have to look at gpxview. It should fail trying to turn on, but the connection to the port should work, but you have to have minigpsd started BEFORE running gpxview. If there are any error messages, it would help...
cat *.kml | grep \$GP | cut -b 12-999... or something like that can extract the NMEA sentences (mod if you need proprietary sentences too). I plan on writing a Python KML/KMZ playback program which would do something like this.
grog - I'll have to look at gpxview. It should fail trying to turn on, but the connection to the port should work, but you have to have minigpsd started BEFORE running gpxview. If there are any error messages, it would help...
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2008-10-24
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#99
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Originally Posted by tz1
I appreciate your effort. I'll check to see what I get. What I did notice is that GPXView still tries to start the GPS via the bluetooth interface, regardless of what settings I tried.
grog - I'll have to look at gpxview. It should fail trying to turn on, but the connection to the port should work, but you have to have minigpsd started BEFORE running gpxview. If there are any error messages, it would help...
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N900 | ZAGG Body Armour | 16Gb A-DATA micro-sd
N810 | 2 x Patriot 8gb mini-SD | Boxwave Crystal Clear SS | Black Aluminum case | OTG dongle
N800 | 2 x 8gb OCX SD | Boxwave Anti-glare SS | PDAir book-style case
Holux M-1200 bluetooth GPS | iGo 4-row bluetooth keyboard | Linksys USB 10/100 ethernet | Plantronics Voyager 855 BT Headset
GROG!
N900 | ZAGG Body Armour | 16Gb A-DATA micro-sd
N810 | 2 x Patriot 8gb mini-SD | Boxwave Crystal Clear SS | Black Aluminum case | OTG dongle
N800 | 2 x 8gb OCX SD | Boxwave Anti-glare SS | PDAir book-style case
Holux M-1200 bluetooth GPS | iGo 4-row bluetooth keyboard | Linksys USB 10/100 ethernet | Plantronics Voyager 855 BT Headset
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2008-10-24
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#100
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gpxview uses "o" and "y" from a newer API version of gpsd. I will have to see if I can adapt - I have the commands implemented but probably not quite the way it expects.
Why bother with garage.maemo.org if I will never be able to release the project as it is dependent on a package they keep in a red-pill black hole?
The original tar file (at the first post) should contain fairly new sources.
The python programs are just python and not obfuscated.