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2008-12-01 , 10:21
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We're saying Microsoft used Apple hardware for their new gaming hardware. That's deep. The unthinkable has been thunk. <smile>

Not to be picky but power is IBM hardware
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Not to be picky but power is IBM hardware
POWER yes. PowerPC (the architecture of the CPUs in the xbox 360 and Apple G5 boxes in question) on the other hand is Apple-IBM-Motorola (aka 'AIM').
 

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but mostly used and made by IBM these days, it seems...
 
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PowerPC? If we're talking processors shipped I'd say the biggest users are, Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, right? BTW, Linux on the Wii is kind of fun.
 
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I get the feeling the next OS will only run on new hardware just to get you to buy new hardware. Well if my 6-month old N810 will not run it, I will learn from the experience because it will be the first and last Nokia product I buy.

And looking at the overall software quality, I will be heading back to the Windows Mobile world... My PDA just worked and all the tools I could get for it too. No hacking.

Until now I was only sick of the software, still thinking the hardware itself was ok, just a matter of waiting for the next release to fix things. So I'd better sell my N810 while there are still people willing to buy it. Once this news gets public, it is worth nothing anymore.
 
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You'll get the same problem with windows mobile, have you ever been able to upgrade any mobile from one version of windows mobile to the next? Even if you could for one, can you do it for all?

Also I doubt that given the number of n800/n810 users that support will stop.
For browsers fennec is coming and should help a lot.
For email there are many choices.
If your not happy, just sell it now and quit whining ;-)
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So I'd better sell my N810 while there are still people willing to buy it. Once this news gets public, it is worth nothing anymore.
Yes, because the tablets are completely useless and utterly dependent on a major OS release to make them functional.

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Yes, because the tablets are completely useless and utterly dependent on a major OS release to make them functional.
Of course !!! They don't have an iphone look and feel ... so the software isn't finished ! Nokia sell unfinished products !

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Yes, because the tablets are completely useless and utterly dependent on a major OS release to make them functional.
Tablets aside, Nokia's unwillingness to fix firmware problems in certain "unpopular" products (like E70) isn't particularly endearing.
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There was never a stable, finished driver for the N8x0 graphics accelerator.
(tiredly) N8x0 has a standard OMAP2 chip with a standard PowerVR accelerator. Drivers for this chip exist (dunno how stable though).

The graphics hardware isn't just a simple OMAP2 SoC, because the OMAP2 and its PowerVR can only drive a 640x480 display.
No, the hardware is a simple OMAP2 SoC, with PowerVR and internal video buffer intact. This hardware is not being used in N8x0, but it does not mean you cannot use PowerVR to render into that internal buffer and then copy the results to the actual Blizzard-powered N8x0 screen.

So, to summarize:
1. No, you can't have PowerVR in N8x0.
2. No, this is not a technical problem but a political one.

But, as you still can't have it, the argument about "why" is merely academical.
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