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#111
Originally Posted by qole View Post
We year-round bike commuters have a lot more karma points to blow! I use only muscle power to travel more than 3500kms a year, so I get one 'free' flight per year.
Aside from the fact that your body is ridiculously less efficient than a car. The amount of Carbon emissions that it takes to feed you, water you, house you, etc for the energy you spent while cycling is a lot more than what a car would take.

Well, only kinda. Because we would eat the food anyway, maybe instead of getting fat we use the energy to bike. Then it would be clean!
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Aside from the fact that your body is ridiculously less efficient than a car. The amount of Carbon emissions that it takes to feed you, water you, house you, etc for the energy you spent while cycling is a lot more than what a car would take.

Well, only kinda. Because we would eat the food anyway, maybe instead of getting fat we use the energy to bike. Then it would be clean!
The carbon emissions used to maintain me are approximately equal to (if not less than) the average North American who drives around everywhere. And because I stay (relatively) in shape, my body tends to use the calories more efficiently than someone who doesn't stay in shape. I am also less of a drain on the medical system.

I'm also curious about the "ridiculously less efficient" comment. Do you have any numbers? Compared to an average internal combustion engine car, driving in city traffic, with a single average driver (burning however many calories our bodies burn at "idle"), does a person on a bicycle burn more energy going the same distance? I find that very hard to believe...

Maybe a full busload of passengers would burn less per person, but the average North American commuter travels alone in their sedan.
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Originally Posted by Thesandlord View Post
Aside from the fact that your body is ridiculously less efficient than a car. The amount of Carbon emissions that it takes to feed you, water you, house you, etc for the energy you spent while cycling is a lot more than what a car would take.
Ummm, the marginal increase in metabolic cost results in more CO_2 than driving... I'm going to need to see some well-justified quantitative analysis for that assertion.

(I fear this thread heading towards pictures N800s posed among homebrew backyard septic tank biodiesel conversion rigs... not that there's anything *wrong* with that...)
 
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Ummm, the marginal increase in metabolic cost results in more CO_2 than driving... I'm going to need to see some well-justified quantitative analysis for that assertion.
No, not the metabolic CO2 emissions. It takes more CO2 to farm food, ship food, store food, make water, have heating, etc etc etc.... than driving a car.

I remember some random biology book saying how cars are 70% efficient, which is "much more" than the human body. Obviously that is wrong, but a car IS more efficient than a human in getting from point A to B. There was this experiment I did in which you had to pedal a bike to light a flashlight, which a simple AA can do a LOT better. But w/e.

It was a JOKE.... I think it is great to ride a bike, because if you read closely, I said that the energy is spent on you anyway, it just gets converted into fat. (So less fat AND save the environment)
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Here's my dog Gafas (spanish for sunglasses), in my balcony, on a beautiful afternoon in Santiago.
Disclaimer: No dogs or tablets were hurt in the taking of this picture

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Here's one for Qole, note the the N800 is totally failing to contribute to global warming. I'm thinking I should replace it with one of those new Ideapads, I hear they'd keep the kids feet nice & warm.
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Wow, bicycle commuting in the snow. That's hardcore.
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Originally Posted by qole View Post
Wow, bicycle commuting in the snow. That's hardcore.
Hardcore, huh? I take that as an indication I should trot out the camera. I'm seeing how long I can keep up my 10-minute ride before weather stops it, but so far I've gone with 3 inches on the ground, so maybe I'll make it all year. (Unless my bike corrodes out from under me first; the salt seems worse than the snow...)
 
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Benson: Ten minutes is kinda short, but I'll let you have it. To be truly hardcore, though, you gotta pull a bike trailer with two kids in it too.
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Originally Posted by qole View Post
Wow, bicycle commuting in the snow. That's hardcore.
My wife refuses to let me pull the kids in the trailer once it gets below -15C ambient (she's from the Southern US... and has Views on these things). This morning was -13, but the battery (relatively new less than a month of usage on it) held it's charge, which surprised me a bit. Last winter I wouldn't get more than 10 minutes of mplayer on a full charge before it got "critically low" once it dipped below -15 or so. -18 tomorrow (-25 with windchill, at least for those standing still)... there will be no photography.
 
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