Originally Posted by qole

And this is so comforting:

Maybe I'm wrong, here. Maybe I'd be perfectly happy on the 1 GB plan, and I'd never go over that limit. Anyone have some real-world numbers for me?

Originally Posted by Texrat

There's the denial I was talking about.

Originally Posted by allnameswereout

If you look in some threads about economy I clearly described how the economy is based on a lot of hot air. It has to collapse one time. Might be now, might be later. If you make money digital its even more easily created allowing more flexible handling.

If you take that into account, and look at the price of hardware which has been going down for years, you might see how devices are still sold if the economy doesn't completely go boom (my assumption) provided the devices are useful. I don't know about you, but a device which gives me a lot of information about what is going on in the world and allows me to manage my communication whereever I am is a godsend. (And if it will have some kind of user-friendly PIM then I won't need to use my E71 for that anymore either.)

If the economy goes completely boom however there are a lot of other issues than Fremantle. You'd save your prayers to have a roof above your head with some -I mean any- food while your income is the same but the money worth jack and squat because of inflation. Case in point: Iceland. If that happens, Nokia and a lot of other tech corporations go bust, and the government will have its prioritoes to save corporations for example those which are important for infrastructure.

Originally Posted by chlettn

Regarding that "step" discussion, and the future for the tablets in general, take a look at an Interview with Anssi Vanjoki:



http://www.mobile-review.com/article...anssi-en.shtml

The rest of the interview is also quite interesting and definitely worth a read.

Originally Posted by qgil

Ah, so much energy invested in threads like this one...

Nokia hibernating? Silence? We are around maemo.org and related upstream projects every day. We actually comment a lot, also about future plans, compared to the usual practices in this industry.

If you want to know more about the future of the Maemo platform and even help forge it, go to http://bugs.maemo.org or http://www.octofish.net/bugjar/ and vote, comment on the features that interest you more. Or create new requests if what matters to you is missing.

There is quite a lot known about Fremantle thanks to the push done by people like you investing their time in fruitful work there and also looking at the pre-alpha release done in December. And there are even some sparks about Harmattan.

About the 5 steps/generations, a tip: don't get too obsessed. In his posicion as vice-president of Markets, Anssi Vanjoki talks mainly about hardware (discrete objects) while Maemo SW people like Peter, ragnar or myself talk mainly about software (continuous development). This is why you see the software people less concerned about such steps. Think also that you, me, Anssi or Peter might have very different barometers for what "mass consumer products" means.

And don't get obsessed because you are going to be impressed by Fremantle and are going to be impressed by Harmattan as well.

About the devices to come with Maemo inside... trust Nokia. B) If you liked the progress 770 --> N800 --> N810 you are probably going to love what comes next.

Originally Posted by Texrat

The situation appears to me that it will fall between your two bookends. At some point this year significant numbers of consumers will be seen to drastically change their spending habits, but it won't be enough to put the likes of Nokia out of business.

One problem with economic downturns is that companies overreact, and individual people underreact. That is in fact what's going on as we speak.

Originally Posted by qgil

About the 5 steps/generations, a tip: don't get too obsessed