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2009-01-12 , 22:46
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
Agreed, but note ragnar used the word Practical which means 1 a: of, relating to, or manifested in practice or action : not theoretical or ideal while what you (and I) prefer to use is far more theoretical taking tons of factors into account. For e.g. a shareholder this isn't easy to work with.
Yes, thank you allnameswereout. I'm a bit bemused over how this is a discussion topic. I didn't say that the aim was popularity. Benny, you're reading my words almost like the devil reads the bible (I'm not sure if that saying translates to English very well).

Anyway. Popularity is one practical measure of success, it's not a goal, but it's a byproduct of doing your work well. Yes, you can also have different goals. A niche approach works for some products, although I do argue that it's not a good strategy for a SW platform.
 
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2009-01-12 , 22:56
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Please please do not take out the hardware keypad. I can understand if it is replaced by another hardware thing like the roller ball or the touch pad.

I do not understand how nokia gets the idea that hardware keypad is very less used by the users..... believe me it is 100% the other way round. That is the only one thing i hate about the n180 in comparision to the n800(of course the lack of the second slot and the fm tuner also are there)

Many Many times i was frustrated by the lack of the keypad on the front of the device. But still i opened the keyboard and use it a lot .... mainly for one handed use.

It is seriously unbelievable to think that the hardware keyboard is not useful. If you cannot make good software for the keypad just leave it alone .... but please do not take it off.
 

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2009-01-12 , 23:06
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#333
Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
There's something being passed around in this Maemo Community Council that seriously affects social skills.
Apologies. I went too far. Can I blame sleep deprivation from having a 5 day-old baby (girl)?

Nokia don't have a responsibility to aim for popularity. They have a responsibility to aim for profit. Profit can also be achieved by dominating niche markets, not only by catering the masses and aiming for popularity. (Actually, at least in my business, it's much easier to be profitable in niche markets than it is in the mass market.)
Nokia aren't a low-volume, niche market provider, though. (Most) Maemo developers want as many users as possible, to get more recognition. (Most) Maemo users want more devices to sell to get more developers.
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Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
Nokia aren't a low-volume, niche market provider, though. (Most) Maemo developers want as many users as possible, to get more recognition. (Most) Maemo users want more devices to sell to get more developers.
Ironically, I suspect (no data!) that the anti-hardware button bias works against that...
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Originally Posted by ragnar View Post
Hard keys are better than touch keys in certain purposes: for fixed functions, things like text input etc.
Hard keys also allow you act without looking. Both in that they allow you to find exactly where to push and that they respond in a tactile, not visual, manner.
 

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2009-01-13 , 00:12
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Hard keys also allow you act without looking. Both in that they allow you to find exactly where to push and that they respond in a tactile, not visual, manner.
O, how the heck have we been glossing over that value!!!!!

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2009-01-13 , 11:53
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2009 - HTC Whitestone W - ???

 
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2009-01-13 , 12:03
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Originally Posted by frank.wagner View Post
2009 - HTC Whitestone W - ???

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/1...io_leaked.html

That's quite a shotgun approach. Let's take every possible form factor and make a device out of it. Maybe some of the pellets will hit.
 
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2009-01-13 , 12:07
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Originally Posted by frank.wagner View Post
2009 - HTC Whitestone W - ???
Frank, I can also post pictures of cats and add a "???" at the end. It's probably as helpful for discussion.
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2009-01-13 , 12:44
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Frank, I can also post pictures of cats and add a "???" at the end. It's probably as helpful for discussion.
Please do.
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