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2009-01-15
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Originally Posted by Benson
Nobody is twisting your arm to do c++ because of Qt. You have a myriad of different bindings (including abominations like php-qt), and if you want lisp, hey, I'm sure it's doable if you have the time for it. I know several avid Qt programmers who have no clue about C++ but keep happily using Qt from Java or Python. The days (years ? decades ?) when Qt meant c++ only are long gone.
Anything that makes Qt, and thus c++, be used more places only serves to annoy me. (IMO, C++ should be banished;
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2009-01-15
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Originally Posted by Benson
Not necessarily.
But Qt means c++, which, as anyone who's just spending the better part of a day porting a QT3 app to QT4 and building it on the tablet (by the process of iterative creepingly slow c++ compilation and fixing whatever throws errors), is perfectly horrible.
I use the Python bindings for Qt ("PyQt"). Since Python is not compiled, slow compilation is not an issue.
I have several apps I wrote for Windows using PyQt that worked perfectly (with no changes) on my N810 when I transferred the source files.
Well, I did have to change the source files from Windows cr/lf line ends to Linux lf line ends, and one of the apps was assuming that the screen was taller than 480 pixels. But other than that, they worked just fine. Including the real-time astrolabe, and the graphic intensive wargame simulation.
Examples:
Windows:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyrath/...7606410052769/
Nokia
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyrath/...7606410052769/
Windows:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyrath/...7606410052769/
Nokia
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyrath/...7606410052769/
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2009-01-15
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Seems I incited a wholly different flamewar than I meant to; now it's about compiled vs. interpreted languages... 
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2009-01-15
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benson, agreed in certain cases.
the solution to slow compilation is not to use an interpreter.
Its simply shifting the problem down the line.
Of course, as binding glue to native objects it may be beneficial to use an interpreter, but it most likely comes down on which language you are comfortable with.
Currently I build apps in C directly on my tablet. whether it is gtk libliqbase or anything else (which doesn't need configure step) it builds within my annoyance threshold and runs quickly.
I tried c++, but quickly grew bored waiting for compilation of even the smallest modules.
having said that, doing anything objective in c is mind numbing.
I'm still used to a half way house syntax of VB
the solution to slow compilation is not to use an interpreter.
Its simply shifting the problem down the line.
Of course, as binding glue to native objects it may be beneficial to use an interpreter, but it most likely comes down on which language you are comfortable with.
Currently I build apps in C directly on my tablet. whether it is gtk libliqbase or anything else (which doesn't need configure step) it builds within my annoyance threshold and runs quickly.
I tried c++, but quickly grew bored waiting for compilation of even the smallest modules.
having said that, doing anything objective in c is mind numbing.
I'm still used to a half way house syntax of VB
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Last edited by fanoush; 2009-01-15 at 08:35.