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2009-04-08 , 22:51
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#31
Forbidding the option of "no change" is an instance of those presently in power controlling the choices of those not in power.

I would like the lowest status rating, whatever the system.

But I would still prefer to vote "no change". I am not interested in someone's argument that that isn't logical. That would be my choice, not theirs.
 

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2009-04-08 , 22:53
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#32
Originally Posted by geneven View Post
Forbidding the option of "no change" is an instance of those presently in power controlling the choices of those not in power.
Hey, look, I forgot to include it, and there's no way to edit polls. I realize everything is a conspiracy to you, so I wont try to shatter your tinfoil hat fantasy land, but so it goes.
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2009-04-08 , 22:55
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#33
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Perhaps I should have made it more explicit: 100 posts or 1000, post counts don't tell you much about a user or their experience, so attaching meaningful ranking systems to a meaningless number is pointless.



I don't know, do you?

Like I said:
EVERYONE on this page should be TOP level , with NO higher levels


So to me around 1000 posts would indicate a Senior level.

So again like I said, you look at that list of people and tell me that 1000 posts doesn't tell you that they are a Senior member? I see no reason to have Jedi Knights
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2009-04-09 , 00:17
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
How does the current system not lead to this? We already have member levels, karma, and post counts to whore for. A new member level system wont change that.



The reasoning behind which I still can't fathom.



URLs are generally abbreviated with fullstops. So you're looking for "m.o".



What's the advantage here? More post-count whoring? If new members are abusing avatars, that's something to deal with on a case-by-case basis.



An idea that's been proposed a couple times. I'd like to see it myself, but I'm not sure how high general support is. We may need a plugin for it.



Random is just spam (much like the tag system as it currently stands).



Again, haven't we reviewed this fact previously? Reggie is still in charge of Talk. . . .

I think I'm with the PB on that language thing...


Yeesh! I don't have the inclination to dissect your posts and regardless of what I have said posted in the past, you still can't "fathom" my point of view regarding the haphazard way in which m/o, m.o (either way I would still pronounce it like the leader of the three stooges ) has been managed and presented in the past.

I imagine that the the next wave of new users are not going to be as receptive to IRC, Mailing lists, Bugzilla, and the like as you and others are.

And yet, to me it seems like attempts are being made to make this forum into something that the former group is more comfortable with.

Before someone pops in to tell me that this is not the topic of the thread... I'll remind you I did vote and was only stating a constructive opinion about that topic when my post was sliced and diced.

I truly wish you good luck with all your efforts GA. But, my money is on the next device being a huge success and as such, it just may need another enthusiast to come along to start a friendly forum that new users can relate to. C'ya around.
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Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
Yeesh! I don't have the inclination to dissect your posts and regardless of what I have said in the past, you still can't "fathom" my point of view
It seems it really does come back to that whole listening thing.
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2009-04-09 , 00:26
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#36
Originally Posted by penguinbait View Post
So again like I said, you look at that list of people and tell me that 1000 posts doesn't tell you that they are a Senior member?
There's a question that nobody can safely answer except by agreeing with you.
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2009-04-09 , 00:39
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
It seems it really does come back to that whole listening thing.
Excuse me for being stupid again... It should have been "posted in the past".


BTW, more and more of us stupid people are comming. You're pro'ly gonna need a helper or two if ya wanna keep pointing it out.
 
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2009-04-09 , 02:07
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qole has the right idea here. Using either the posts:thanks ratio, or m.o karma will lead to more useful posts, and less "I agree" posts, because the rating will mean something. If we have a rank, people will think it means something regardless of whether it does or not, so why not actually have it mean something?

As for the "over 1,000 posts means something" issue... I'd just like to point out that munky261 is on that list, and... well... this post by bongo pretty much sums up why that means nothing (in context) (No offense meant, munky!) Posts do not equate to experience. "Thanks" and karma equate to experience. Can we come up with some equation that factors in: (posts optional, because... as I said, they're useless on their own, but useful compared to other items), thanks given, thanks received, m.o karma? It seems that some kind of rating that factors in all this information would be the ideal solution, and create meaningful ranks, which, IMO, should be the goal here.
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2009-04-09 , 02:52
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#39
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
You may not be trolling, but you are missing the point.



This is exactly the point. The current system suggests that there's some sort of meaningful seniority implied by the member levels, which there isn't, so the goal is to put together a system that doesn't imply anything. Thus, the codenames.
i agree. take me for instance. i've been a member for a very short time, but i have posted A LOT (that omega thread was great ) because i like to add my two cents.

but as you may or may not know, I am still a MAJOR NOOB at anything linux/tablet related, and i'm eerily close to being a "Senior Member," which will be a major misrepresentation of my position here.

i don't know about the thanks/karma rating system either, i've got 14 thanks, and none of them were from me saying anything that *actually* helped anyone. (feel free to thank me!)

[i like "Prolific Poster"]
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Originally Posted by geneven View Post
Forbidding the option of "no change" is an instance of those presently in power controlling the choices of those not in power.
I'd just like to interject that there's not really anyone "in power" or "not in power." There are just some people who have stronger opinions (and maybe louder voices) and those who don't. Some would call this a detriment of open communities and others would call it a benefit. If enough people call for "no change," then that's where it will stand.

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