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2009-04-10 , 16:52
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Originally Posted by wazd View Post
Has anyone actually patented patent itself yet?
I've heard of some corporation patenting human genes, so actually somebody may have patented YOU
 
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2009-04-10 , 17:40
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Next thing you know they'll patent breathing and charge everyone royalties.
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2009-04-10 , 18:36
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Originally Posted by Lord Raiden View Post
The part that will keep this from happening is all the companies who want to do everything imaginable to kill all competition and become a monopoly. With no tech patents, or no patents at all, period, it'd be every man for himself and you'd either have to be an innovator and a leader in quality and would be forced to truly compete or die.

That's great for us, and it's even better for the companies who can pull it off. For one, it'd weed out the weak and bad companies and boost the strong and good companies.
Microsoft became one of the worst monopolists in the tech world and they didn't use a single patent to do it. In fact, patents (and OSS) are a bona fide threat to MS.

Small tech companies are in a rough business. Innovation (without patents) and quality sound nice theoretically, but don't work in the real world. Try going for funding with an innovative and quality product, but without the ability to keep anyone from copying it. See how far you get... The patent system may be in need of reform, but it's far better than no patents.
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2009-04-10 , 19:09
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Originally Posted by SD69 View Post
Microsoft became one of the worst monopolists in the tech world and they didn't use a single patent to do it. In fact, patents (and OSS) are a bona fide threat to MS.
thanks to getting a nice agreement with IBM that didnt forbid them selling MS-DOS to others, and compaq reverse engineering the PC bios chip, and getting away with it.

suddenly you have 1001 IBM PC compatibles out there, and microsoft can supply them the os thats needed, without being slapped silly by IBM.

they basically became the de-facto os standard, and have done just about anything to keep that status to this day.

its btw the same events that drove intel from a me-to in cpus to the top. their 8086 was not sexy, but it was cheap and available, and thats what IBM needed to head apple of at the desktop computing pass.
 

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2009-04-15 , 12:43
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A little enlightenment on patents: http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com...-for-my-ideas/

Bottom line: concept = good and necessary. Current implementation and regulation = whacked.
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2009-04-15 , 14:43
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
Hopefully this will put the end to multitouch patents and open it up for everyone. So anyone can use multitouch without having to pay anything or worry about being sued.
If the patent is valid, they have every right to exercise it.
 
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2009-04-15 , 14:45
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Originally Posted by Lord Raiden View Post
lol. Honestly, the whole patent system right now is so boned beyond mention that they need to scrap it and start from the bottom up. Of course, given how fast technology is moving these days, what's the point? By the time you get the patent, the technology is already obsolete. Plus things are FAR too restrictive and innovation would explode if technology patents were either severely restricted or eliminated.

Some say things would get ugly. I don't really think they would. Sure, there would be the whole goldrush mentality for a few years, after which you'd see things settle down into a more manageable development curve. The only reason there'd be a goldrush of sorts is that the freeing up of tech patents would allow the innovation curve to flow out from behind it's dam of patents and settle into a more natural flow again instead of the damed up trickle we get now.

The part that will keep this from happening is all the companies who want to do everything imaginable to kill all competition and become a monopoly. With no tech patents, or no patents at all, period, it'd be every man for himself and you'd either have to be an innovator and a leader in quality and would be forced to truly compete or die.

That's great for us, and it's even better for the companies who can pull it off. For one, it'd weed out the weak and bad companies and boost the strong and good companies.
What is the incentive of spending millions of dollars to develop a new invention when a competitor can simply copy it and sell it for production cost without having to recoup the R&D investment? This is a prescription to end most high-dollar R&D.
 

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2009-04-15 , 14:47
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
I personally feel that patents and copyrghts are outdated now.
Kind of like the United States Constitution (which provides the basis for patents and copyrights). *rolls eyes*
 
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Originally Posted by maacruz View Post
I've heard of some corporation patenting human genes, so actually somebody may have patented YOU
Nonsense. Human beings are not patentable in the United States.
 
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2009-04-15 , 14:48
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next thing you know they'll patent breathing and charge everyone royalties.
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