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2009-04-17 , 14:46
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I just looked at this site at 300% and fit page: Got damn it's messed up!
Just looked at moblie.nytimes.com at the same res. I guess my eyesight is very good. Way too much vertical scrolling to me.
 
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2009-04-17 , 15:39
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The right question to ask is not "will the Fremantle browser support Fit Width to View?" but "will the Fremantle browser allow me to read web pages comfortably without excessive horizontal scrolling?".

Whether or not you will miss this option is not something you can judge before you have actually used the new browser.
 

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2009-04-17 , 16:18
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Originally Posted by kanishou View Post
The right question to ask is not "will the Fremantle browser support Fit Width to View?" but "will the Fremantle browser allow me to read web pages comfortably without excessive horizontal scrolling?".

Whether or not you will miss this option is not something you can judge before you have actually used the new browser.
Precisely why my original post said:

For the record, I simply want to be able to avoid horizontal scrolling when I make font big enough to read comfortably. If there is some way other than FWTV to do that on the new browser, then great.
But you get credit for putting it in different words. Well done!
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2009-04-17 , 16:36
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Fit to width is a great feature, but MicroB's implementation of it is pretty awful in my experience (Extremely slow and produces inconsistent/weird results). I'd rather see it improved to behave as well as Opera's than removed though.
 
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2009-04-17 , 18:10
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Originally Posted by kanishou View Post
The right question to ask is not "will the Fremantle browser support Fit Width to View?" but "will the Fremantle browser allow me to read web pages comfortably without excessive horizontal scrolling?"
Do you mind throwing some URLs to check? I can't promise anything but I might bring some feedback based on real examples.
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2009-04-17 , 19:08
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Do you mind throwing some URLs to check? I can't promise anything but I might bring some feedback based on real examples.
I did give you an example (at 180% zoom).

You said that with fremantle I could just adjust the font type. I say: Great, so long as this is easy and quick to do. I of course don't change font sizes often with the current microb (or my desktop, for that matter), so I don't know if this will be as convenient to use on a webpage by webpage basis as FWTV currently is.

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Well I'd ask why are you on the mobile page on a non-mobile browser like microb.
I use the mobile version of sites because they are less complex and thus load quicker. They are, incidentally, more conducive to quickly zooming and fitting width to view, thus it easier for those of us without a hawks eyes to read what's on those internets. I use mobile version of websites for the same reason I don't often use debian on the tablet: the tablet often works better when you embrace the fact that it is a mobile device (and not a workhorse with a huge monitor).

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Second I'd ask why not use an RSS reader if you're trying to avoid the image heavy website?
I do use an RSS reader, but I don't always want to have to use a reader as an intermediary between me and the interwebs. If I want to read what is actually on the New York Times's website, and if I want to do so in a format that works really well with the tablet, is that so crazy?[*]

*Let me note that the NYT is just an example, and that suggesting that one use userContent.css (as I do in some cases) is not a good suggestion for those who have no clue what that is (as I recently did not).
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2009-04-17 , 19:31
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I can respect you not wanting a thing like an RSS reader between you and the interwebs, but the RSS reader can blow up text and fir it to the window and remove the graphics, AND store the material for later reading if you access the full text through the reader. Seems that would serve the purpose better than a badly reformatted page (NY Times as an example).

Anyway. I'm not dictating how people should use their tablets and incidentally I agree with you on the non-use of Debian for the same reason.
 

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2009-04-17 , 19:39
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Originally Posted by sondjata View Post
I can respect you not wanting a thing like an RSS reader between you and the interwebs, but the RSS reader can blow up text and fir it to the window and remove the graphics, AND store the material for later reading if you access the full text through the reader. Seems that would serve the purpose better than a badly reformatted page (NY Times as an example).
I was one of the first heavy users of feedcircuit and I use it every day to download the entire washington post and la times, among many other sites that list content as feeds. Many feeds downloaded are filtered first through skweezer.net, to strip extraneous content. All html files created by feedcircuit are displayed according to rules in a userContent.css.----So I'm quite familiar with the power of RSS readers, especially feedcircuit.

I'm just sayin' that sometimes a guy's gotta let his hair down and dive into the intertubes, and I can't always ensure that I've got a particular site in my userContent file. That's where FWTV can be helpful.
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2009-04-17 , 19:47
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Originally Posted by sondjata View Post
Well I'd ask why are you on the mobile page on a non-mobile browser like microb.

Second I'd ask why not use an RSS reader if you're trying to avoid the image heavy website?
1) Speed, speed and speed. I'm too impatient knowing that the mobile version is faster, less cpu intensive, and less cluttered in most cases.

2) RSS readers are great except for the fact that they just contain portions of the full article in the majority of the cases I use.

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Well I'd ask why are you on the mobile page on a non-mobile browser like microb.
You weren't replying to me, but I would like to answer that one anyway.

The browser may not be "mobile", but the device certainly is. I'm frequently connected to the 'net through my mobile phone, and what matters there is to keep the amount of data transfered as low as possible. Both due to cost (even more so after I checked the accumulated bill only yesterday..) and speed. And there are other reasons too, such as the limited size of the screen. For all of those reasons I prefer to read the mobile version of slashdot.org, for example. (slashdot.org/palm/). Trying to wade through the "standard" slashdot on my N800 would be very time consuming, I wouldn't get much done that day. In addition to the other factors.

In short, there are several very good reasons for sticking to mobile versions of sites for some stuff, on this mobile device.
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