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2009-04-28 , 14:32
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Given that for many pages there is no way to have page fit the tablet screen with a reasonable font size, without the "Fit to page" feature, and that many tablet users do want this feature, in one shape or the other, have you considered implementing a similar feature from scratch and adding it to the new (Fremantle) browser? To avoid breaking page layouts, it may be useful to rename it to "Try fitting to width", and bail out on HTML elements that cannot be resized.
FWTV is dropped. Some users will miss it, some users won't.

A couple of questions to consider. Is Mozilla upstream considering this feature? Ultimately that is the upstream project where those features should be pushed. Is FWTV a feature that can be added as an extension through addFons or...: You know, at the end all this is open source.
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2009-04-28 , 14:52
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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
FWTV is dropped. Some users will miss it, some users won't.
Thanks for the info. I thought that was not final. We could have spared the discussion...

If somebody will come up with a FWTV features that can be added to the browser, ok.

Let's see what Fremantle and the new hardware will offer to improve rendering and readability of web sites where current users switch-on the FWTV and zoom-in function.

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EDIT: better orthography for better readability...
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2009-04-28 , 17:41
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Tell me if I'm wrong ...

All MicroB is open source
The code used for FWTV can readily be identified and lifted
The browser that ships with the "N900" will accept add-ons
A good programmer could modify the MicroB code and make FWTV an add-on for the new browser
 
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Addons are javascript, a whole restyling action is going to require quite a bit of juice with javascript and probably will be slower (or much slower without the JIT). But doable nontheless.
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Addons are javascript, a whole restyling action is going to require quite a bit of juice with javascript and probably will be slower (or much slower without the JIT). But doable nontheless.
Alternatively, just go right in and patch the code.
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Alternatively, just go right in and patch the code.
This feature is not as simple as "patching the code". It requires lots of thoughtwork.
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Originally Posted by Bundyo View Post
Addons are javascript, a whole restyling action is going to require quite a bit of juice with javascript and probably will be slower (or much slower without the JIT). But doable nontheless.
BTW, is it possible to implement fit-to-width in Tear? =)
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If I had any control over the rendering from outside, maybe I can try

There are some helpful CSS and javascript tips here btw:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.p...70613235507819
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Is Mozilla upstream considering this feature? Ultimately that is the upstream project where those features should be pushed.
To save some searching, "Implement 'Fit to window width' as in Opera 8.0 (no-horizontal-scrollbar mode)" is Bug 276166 in Mozilla Bugzilla. In a little more than four years, it has accumulated twenty votes, ten comments, and no developers.

Still, upstream is the place to fight for this feature. Vote the bug up. The going in-favor argument there seems to be tied to small screens on UMPCs and netbooks. As that's a new and fast growing market segment, you might find some increased interest in the feature.
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
To save some searching, "Implement 'Fit to window width' as in Opera 8.0 (no-horizontal-scrollbar mode)" is Bug 276166 in Mozilla Bugzilla. In a little more than four years, it has accumulated twenty votes, ten comments, and no developers.

Still, upstream is the place to fight for this feature. Vote the bug up. The going in-favor argument there seems to be tied to small screens on UMPCs and netbooks. As that's a new and fast growing market segment, you might find some increased interest in the feature.
Thanks, sjgadsby, for making this easy.

I just signed up and posted a Comment in favor. I'd "vote" for it if there is such a thing, but I haven't figured out how to.
 
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