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I need a little help here. I need to install keepasx on my N810. I tried Password Safe, but to be honest, I have been using keepassx on my desktops and laptops for a couple of years and don't want to convert >100 passwords to Password Safe.

So I found a link to keepasx for maemo, downloaded it and tried to install. It couldn't, because my N810 was missing libqt4-core and libqt4-gui.

So I went to qt4.garage.maemo.com, but there was not a link to the repo. After a bit of research, I added repository.maemo.org/extras-devel, but still could not find the QT libraries.

Can someone help me get this going?

Thanks,
--vr
 
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Add the Extras repository because the files are available in http://repository.maemo.org/extras/p...ree/q/qt4-x11/ it seems.
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Originally Posted by Andre Klapper View Post
Add the Extras repository because the files are available in http://repository.maemo.org/extras/p...ree/q/qt4-x11/ it seems.
I thought I had done that. I added the following to my catalog in the app manager:

Code:
Catalog name: maemo Extras-devel
Web address:  http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel
Distribution:     diablo
Components:  free non-free
I also added

Code:
Catalog name: maemo Extras
Web address:  http://repository.maemo.org/extras
Distribution:     diablo
Components:  free non-free
But at no time was I able to find the qt libs.

These *should* also include the directories below it, especially in the pool (e.g. pool/diablo/free/q/qt4-x11/), correct?

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Where are you trying to install the libs from ? App manager will not offer you to install the libs as a separate download. For that either use the console 'apt-get install libqt4-gui' or install the qt4 example app from App manager (which will pull in the qt libs as a dependency)
 
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Where are you trying to install the libs from ? App manager will not offer you to install the libs as a separate download. For that either use the console 'apt-get install libqt4-gui' or install the qt4 example app from App manager (which will pull in the qt libs as a dependency)
Okay, I tried to apt-get install it, but ran into a problem. I guess this is a broader question, but since / is perpetually at at least 94% utilization, when I try to install things like the entirety of the qt4 libs, I run out of space on /. How do people generally set up their systems to avoid this? I planned on moving /var/cache/apt into /media/mmc2 and symlinking it back to /var/cache.

What else can I do this with safely?

Thanks,
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As a short term solution, you can delete some docs (pdf-s actually) and the bundled videos/images/mp3s in your home. Softlinking system stuff is dangerous as mmc2 is I think FAT by default so you always have the danger of not being able to boot because of some trivial issue.

The Right Way (TM) would be cloning to the internal or SD card. While it sacrifices a little bit of media storage, It gives you application space, speed and a fallback 'safe mode' (the original OS on your SoC flash) if you mess up something. Search for penguinbait's console-tools if you're interested in this.
 

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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
As a short term solution, you can delete some docs (pdf-s actually) and the bundled videos/images/mp3s in your home. Softlinking system stuff is dangerous as mmc2 is I think FAT by default so you always have the danger of not being able to boot because of some trivial issue.
Actually, I softlinked /home/user/MyDocs into /media/mmc1.

I also had one of the N810s that had the badly behaving internal SD cards, so I had to reformat. When I did (since all of the boxes in my network run Linux anyway), I created it as ext2.

The Right Way (TM) would be cloning to the internal or SD card. While it sacrifices a little bit of media storage, It gives you application space, speed and a fallback 'safe mode' (the original OS on your SoC flash) if you mess up something. Search for penguinbait's console-tools if you're interested in this.
I am interested in this, its just finding a chunk of time to do it and figuring out how to get everything restored...The N810 has become, in the words of a buddy of mine, my "brain prosthesis" and I use it constantly, hence the reason for this thread. I needed keepassx instead of the password safe app, since I have a couple of hundred passwords stored in it and its a lot easier to get the app running than to convert.

I have penguinbait's page bookmarked. The last time I read over it, there were a couple of things that weren't clear. I'll read over it again today and give it a try.

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Originally Posted by VulcanRidr View Post
I am interested in this, its just finding a chunk of time to do it and figuring out how to get everything restored...
Ah, but if you do it right you will clone your *current* system, with all the settings, apps, etc, etc. There will be nothing to restore, you just continue from your current state, but booting from the SD.

The N810 has become, in the words of a buddy of mine, my "brain prosthesis" and I use it constantly,
I know the feeling

I have penguinbait's page bookmarked. The last time I read over it, there were a couple of things that weren't clear. I'll read over it again today and give it a try.
If in doubt, just go for pb-easy. Also, might sound a bit maternal and ovecautious, but... MAKE A BACKUP before you try anything
 
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Ah, but if you do it right you will clone your *current* system, with all the settings, apps, etc, etc. There will be nothing to restore, you just continue from your current state, but booting from the SD.
That was one of the questions I had about doing the flip to the internal drive. It says you need, what, 1.5 GB or something to make this work? Do you move the stuff that is on there somewhere else? Like /media/mmc1? I will try to look at the docs tonight and post my questions to a separate thread...Between my new job and the horrendous commute (2+ hrs each way), I have had to limit my computer time, and my new job, being a gov't contractor, means no wireless...(Wireless?!? I don't even have a _desk_)

If in doubt, just go for pb-easy. Also, might sound a bit maternal and ovecautious, but... MAKE A BACKUP before you try anything
Is an internal backup sufficient or should I transfer it to my backup server? One of the things I would like to play with is kde4, and flipping the root filesystem was one of the first steps, so I really want to try it...

Another problem/question. After all this I have done, installing qt4 and keepassx as well as moving /var/cache/apt to /media/mmc2 and symlinking it, I notice an added degree of slowness on my tablet. Among other things,
  • The Bluetooth keyboard takes a long time to disconnect, enough so that I hit the button again the first couple of times and ended up reconnecting it
  • The charging is odd. I plugged into an outlet, and while the "Charging" message came up momentarily as usual, the battery icon did not show the charging indication.
  • Books take a really, really long time to come up in FBreader. Instead of taking about 5 seconds, it takes upwards of 15 seconds to load. (estimated)

Is this a result of moving /var/log/apt? Or a result of qt4 being installed? Something else?

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by VulcanRidr View Post
That was one of the questions I had about doing the flip to the internal drive. It says you need, what, 1.5 GB or something to make this work? Do you move the stuff that is on there somewhere else? Like /media/mmc1? I will try to look at the docs tonight and post my questions to a separate thread...
I just backed up all the stuff, removed the ext card (just to be sure because of the crazy SD numeration), cloned and then copied stuff back. 1.5GB is about right, depending of how much you want to put aside for the FAT part (or maybe swap).

Is an internal backup sufficient or should I transfer it to my backup server?
Always better to have a backup physically outside of the unit. Gremlins never sleep.

Another problem/question. After all this I have done, installing qt4 and keepassx as well as moving /var/cache/apt to /media/mmc2 and symlinking it, I notice an added degree of slowness on my tablet. Among other things,
Is this a result of moving /var/log/apt? Or a result of qt4 being installed? Something else?
Don't think so, none of those use the apt dir AFAIK. For me (might be placebo) the cloned system seemed faster. I burned myself with softlinks, so have no speed related experience with them.
 
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