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Originally Posted by fragos View Post
As the author I prefer to keep control over my work. I'd also miss the traffic on my website that this HowTo brings.
Understood. Traffic aside, wikis aren't meant to take authorship (or control) away from any given piece. If you look closely, you'll see that most wiki articles are maintained by the original author. Sometimes edits are made by others, but usually only to improve on the original text -- or if the original author asks for help.

But, if you prefer to keep it on your server, that's your prerogative. And, if someone chooses to add a similar tutorial to the maemo.org wiki, unfortunately you won't be able to claim ownership anymore.

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Originally Posted by timsamoff View Post
And, if someone chooses to add a similar tutorial to the maemo.org wiki, unfortunately you won't be able to claim ownership anymore.
Others are free to write on the same subject in the wiki or elsewhere. A link to my site can be inserted in the WiKi. I do not own the subject but will always be the author of what I wrote. I choose not to charge for viewing the Maemo Mapper HowTo on my site.
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Fine You are the author of this Sh*t and Thanks For it

NO BODY PUBLISH ANY THING IN THE WIKI ABOUT THE MAPPER SINCE THE AUTHOR FORBID TO COPY IT, JUST PUT THE LINKS FOR GOD SAKES.
 
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Fragos, by legal definition according to copyright law, yes. By normal definition, yes. But when you're writing help guides and how-to's, your goal shouldn't be to claim "this is mine and you can use it", but rather "here's something useful that should help you" and not to bother with who wrote what.

My tech site runs everything under creative commons, because we *WANT* people to share it, as we know that's the best way to help people, and that's what we're there for. Hording helpful information as though it were Gollums ring does nothing to help people, or if it does, the amount of help that information can provide is unicated and limited. By allowing my works to be shared, I'm helping people from China to India, and all across the Americas with computer stuff, namely FOSS and Linux stuff. And ya know what? I'm happiest that way. I get more enjoyment knowing others have found my stuff useful and shared it with others who were also helped, than I would if I had horded it behind some mask of "ownership".

Just my 2c.
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Originally Posted by fragos View Post
Others are free to write on the same subject in the wiki or elsewhere. A link to my site can be inserted in the WiKi. I do not own the subject but will always be the author of what I wrote. I choose not to charge for viewing the Maemo Mapper HowTo on my site.
Ahh, altruism... what a wonderful thing.

No doubt you put a lot of time and effort into cutting, pasting, adding or removing verbs, and rearranging gnuite's posts and other info found on Internet Tablet Talk on to your web site.

I'm sure you wouldn't mind someone else doing the same for the WiKi.

Oh and if your site ever goes down, I'm thinkin' that "author" will choose not to charge you if you need to reference the WiKi.

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Personally, I would like to see a good guide for Maemo Mapper (MM) on the wiki because, after reading Fragos's guide, I still cannot figure out how to use MM.

Fragos, you should really consider letting go of your tight control of that content, because, in my experience, the content needs a lot of improvement. You need to let other people contribute. If this MM guide had been on the wiki, as I was going through it trying to learn MM for the first time, I could have inserted questions or comments that would eventually improve the usefulness of the HowTo for future readers. Plus, I saw small mistakes and typos I would have fixed if it was on the wiki.

You make it sound like you are more interested in helping yourself than in helping the community. I do not know if that is true, but that's the impression you are leaving.
 
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Originally Posted by MountainX View Post
Personally, I would like to see a good guide for Maemo Mapper (MM) on the wiki because, after reading Fragos's guide, I still cannot figure out how to use MM.

Fragos, you should really consider letting go of your tight control of that content, because, in my experience, the content needs a lot of improvement. You need to let other people contribute. If this MM guide had been on the wiki, as I was going through it trying to learn MM for the first time, I could have inserted questions or comments that would eventually improve the usefulness of the HowTo for future readers. Plus, I saw small mistakes and typos I would have fixed if it was on the wiki.

You make it sound like you are more interested in helping yourself than in helping the community. I do not know if that is true, but that's the impression you are leaving.
Thanks

Me Too looking for a good guide
 
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Originally Posted by MountainX View Post
Personally, I would like to see a good guide for Maemo Mapper (MM) on the wiki because, after reading Fragos's guide, I still cannot figure out how to use MM.

Fragos, you should really consider letting go of your tight control of that content, because, in my experience, the content needs a lot of improvement. You need to let other people contribute. If this MM guide had been on the wiki, as I was going through it trying to learn MM for the first time, I could have inserted questions or comments that would eventually improve the usefulness of the HowTo for future readers. Plus, I saw small mistakes and typos I would have fixed if it was on the wiki.

You make it sound like you are more interested in helping yourself than in helping the community. I do not know if that is true, but that's the impression you are leaving.
you're talking about one of the most helpful dudes on this site.
 

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you're talking about one of the most helpful dudes on this site.
OK, glad to know that. I'm a newbie.
 
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Helpful or not, he needs to open up his stuff to let the community help as well. As it stands right now, he's just hit hording because it's beneficial to him. That may be fine right now, but it'll come back to haunt him later on.

Of course, if he doesn't want to release his info, it's really not that much of an effort to recreate all his stuff (it's open information anyways) and improve it greatly on an open wiki where everyone can contribute. So I guess the question is up to him. Give freely of what you have and be loved for what you've done, or horde it and be bypassed and ultimately hated for what you did. So in the long run it's better to give than to horde.

But enough preaching to the choir, it's time to get back to the topic.
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