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2009-08-20 , 16:23
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#261
Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
Wild speculation: If the camera button acts as the shutter release, then the square next to it could sense when a finger is in place to take a photo. It would be the equivalent of a half-press of the shutter release on traditional cameras, engaging autofocus, etc.
And it could be an IR transceiver. Booyaw!
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2009-08-20 , 16:23
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
So close to the camera button?

Wild speculation: If the camera button acts as the shutter release, then the square next to it could sense when a finger is in place to take a photo. It would be the equivalent of a half-press of the shutter release on traditional cameras, engaging autofocus, etc.
That's not wild enough speculation. I'm going for a cover for the 10ft extensible periscope camera, This is pretty strong requirement for new phones, with everyone in high school needing to do those up skirt shots
 
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#263
Could it be the fabled Smell-O-Vision sensor instead?
Oh please, please make it so..
 

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Originally Posted by sevla View Post
Kind of have to agree with them regarding the space bar key. It's really a bonehead move by Nokia and that's coming from someone who loves Nokia phones. There is no advantage (in typing speed) by moving the space bar to that location. If anything it presents a learning curve for using the phone.

I doubt anyone types faster because the keyboard was shoved all the way to the right. It's a feature that doesn't add any benefit to the phone so it really isn't a "feature" at all. Plus people are going to take one look at that keyboard and say they don't like it. That's just the nature of consumers.
I strongly disagree. I think this will help my accuracy hence speed. But the proof is in the use, so I won't purport to speak for others.

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Saying it's "better" is your opinion
..and saying it's automatically worse is yours. Hey, let's battle on the internet over opinions we can't test yet!
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2009-08-20 , 16:35
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Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
Refresh my memory please... Why are you here? I mean on a Maemo enthusiasts board... You spend a lot of time here. We see your remarks in just about every active thread. Whats the point of your involvement?

Just wondering...
The point of the involvement is to try to make Maemo better so more people use it. More people using it means more software companies paying attention to it. So we might actually get updated software like Skype (hopefully with video).

I think Maemo is a great platform, but it's not usable by anyone who either isn't a tech geek or doesn't want to learn the ins and outs of the device. The device itself, coupled with the community and the software and hacks they've provided is powerful. But unless you can get that to the common user they're going overlook the device for something more accessible. E.g. iPhone, Pre, even Android with its rough edges.
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2009-08-20 , 16:40
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Yes, it wouldn't make any sense with a 4 row keyboard. But with a 3 row keyboard the alternative would be much worse: putting the space to the center would break the qwerty layouting, pushing letters to strange positions, and that would be much worse.

A three row keyboard layout with space bar on the right hand side is for instance in the Nokia N97, or it was (basically) also on the N800 full screen keyboard. Those layouts have been certainly usability tested, and it isn't causing any major problems to users in tests. I'm personally a lefty, and I don't have problems with the N97 layout and space bar position.
 

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I will vouch for ragnar's expertise. He's a stubborn, argumentive guy but he knows his stuff.
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Originally Posted by EIPI View Post
Good show Nokia! Now, when can I get one, and can you convince Ted Rogers to lower his data costs!!?
I don't think it will be Nokia who will do that. It will be someone else giving us Canadians "global levels of pricing".

EDIT: Good to hear from another lefty that the weird spacebar won't be a problem. I was worried.
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2009-08-20 , 16:53
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
So close to the camera button?

Wild speculation: If the camera button acts as the shutter release, then the square next to it could sense when a finger is in place to take a photo. It would be the equivalent of a half-press of the shutter release on traditional cameras, engaging autofocus, etc.
That was my first thought too. If so, that is great! Just point and shoot. No need to load the camera app.

Also, as for the idea that it is a 'full screen' toggle. There is no SIDE-BAR-BASED-TASK-SWITCHER. So, there is no non-full screen view. That means no need for a full-screen toggle button.


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2009-08-20 , 16:58
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Originally Posted by BruceL View Post
That was my first thought too. If so, that is great! Just point and shoot. No need to load the camera app.
I kind of expect the camera app to start/close anyway when the camera slider is moved, just like on any other cover+camera equipped device...
 
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