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2009-08-22
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#411
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Originally Posted by daperl
Thanks for revealing this "multi-touch with one hand" secret. I tried to demo this with N810 (just as a mock-up device, obviously not multi-touch capable), but found it pretty difficult. The index and middle finger aren't very flexible (at least mine...). There are only some certain areas on the screen you can reach with reasonable difficulty. The bottom part of the screen is almost completely covered with the hand/fingers. If you need visibility to the bottom part of the screen, then this method is not very useful.
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2009-08-22
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Originally Posted by anidel
No, it's just that as benny, says, it's hard to do with one hand. Now, we all know cool people don't do stuff with one hand as it's too geeky (it means that you're either capable of doing two things simultaneously, or that you're packed up, both signs of non-hipness). The put-cup-down-to-zoom-or-scroll-then-pick-it-back-up during morning newsreads is not my idea of usability.
That complicated?
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2009-08-22
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Originally Posted by attila77
I've updated that answer, I was totally lost
No, it's just that as benny, says, it's hard to do with one hand. Now, we all know cool people don't do stuff with one hand as it's too geeky (it means that you're either capable of doing two things simultaneously, or that you're packed up, both signs of non-hipness). The put-cup-down-to-zoom-or-scroll-then-pick-it-back-up during morning newsreads is not my idea of usability.
Was thinking at something else.. :P
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2009-08-22
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@ Netherlands
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Originally Posted by daperl
For the type of application not only Google Earth.
Multi-touch for the iPhone OS Google Earth app is undisputedly cool.That said, how often do I use that app?
As I've mentioned before, multi-touch is not needed for zooming/unzooming in mobile Safari 99.99% of the time.
Originally Posted by Gorgon
Yes, I can.
So you can multi-touch zoom with the device in your hand without using the other hand?
To clarify: let the device lay down on your hand palm and spread your 3 fingers. Then use thumb and point finger to zoom. After that you can use either one of those fingers to to move left/right/up/down.
Case in point: I've used this in Munich, in the rain, while using my iPod touch to load some Google Maps from an open WiFi AP.
Its not what I'd call convenient but usable for emergency or quick usage. For most people however something, e.g. a seperate hand, has to hold the device.
I can do what you imply with my E71 (I zoom in, out, and move left/right/up/down) easier than I was able to do that on my Nokia N810 however it still takes various buttons to press and therefore attention/focus. Multi touch gets me to the map quicker because I visually 'travel' through the map. With buttons it feels more ar-ti-fi-cial.
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2009-08-22
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You guys are talking about multitouch as if 90% of the tablet's operation is going to be using it. Even on the iPhone it's sort of an optional gesture to use... for the most part (90%), you can manage the phone with a single hand, tap & double tapping your way around.
On the browser (the most important app to me), it takes a quick double-click to zoom into the target's div-width. Another double click to zoom out. Single click to pick a link. That's all there is to it. I very rarely need to manually zoom in\out with multitouch... and when I do, I very much prefer the fluidness and precision of multitouch than (-)(+) buttons like on the Android's browser.
On the browser (the most important app to me), it takes a quick double-click to zoom into the target's div-width. Another double click to zoom out. Single click to pick a link. That's all there is to it. I very rarely need to manually zoom in\out with multitouch... and when I do, I very much prefer the fluidness and precision of multitouch than (-)(+) buttons like on the Android's browser.
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2009-08-22
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You need multitouch for piano applications. Apart from that, it's mostly a sales pitch. HP has multitouch on some of their laptops, and I bet not any of you have bothered to check out which models those are. But had it been Apple laptops that had multitouch, we'd never heard the end of it.
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2009-08-22
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Originally Posted by volt
actually, latest apple laptops do have multitouch
You need multitouch for piano applications. Apart from that, it's mostly a sales pitch. HP has multitouch on some of their laptops, and I bet not any of you have bothered to check out which models those are. But had it been Apple laptops that had multitouch, we'd never heard the end of it.
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2009-08-22
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If interested in how really there is no apple mutitouch patent in the sense that it would actually affect anything but some special case:
http://gizmodo.com/5142445/dissectin...n-it-stop-palm
actually the part where gizmondo guys themselves try to make sense of it is where you should stop reading.
For the cases that they are discussing afterwards, there are prior art cases (like the rotation).
http://gizmodo.com/5142445/dissectin...n-it-stop-palm
actually the part where gizmondo guys themselves try to make sense of it is where you should stop reading.
For the cases that they are discussing afterwards, there are prior art cases (like the rotation).
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2009-08-22
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Originally Posted by sondjata
Actually, even a lowly iBook from 2003 does have limited multitouch capability (using a third-party driver): the two-finger scroll as well as two-finger tap for secondary button press. And let me tell you, it was a revelation when I first tried it, after using regular touchpads and trackpoints on PC laptops for so long.
actually, latest apple laptops do have multitouch
It's still the only multitouch gesture I regularly use on my latest version MacBook Pro, even though it supports pinch, rotate, three- and four-finger swipe gestures as well.
That said, I personally don't cosider multitouch a necessary feature on a mobile device. 770, N800 and N810 all have pretty mediocre resistive touchscreens. I would prefer a high-resolution, accurate, sensitive resistive touchscreen over capacitive touchscreen any day.
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