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#241
It's not about computers or submarines.
If you buy something - you read the label, if you don't understand what you're buying - ask. If you still don't understand, think hard if you should buy something that you have no idea of and are unwilling to learn it.
Isn't that common sense?
 
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#242
Originally Posted by ColdFusion View Post
You don't use that on a 10" netbook.
even though one could use the hdmi - connector to do something mysterious to screen size? 30" eizo for example?
 
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I like this gadget but it's not for me. Making cheap effective gadgets for the classroom is probably the future of marketing strategies. We can connect people but we still can't get much work done. Fix that problem and these devices will sell by the millions. You see I have news, mobile devices aren't just cheap hardware that you can carry around, we're beyond the portability thing. They're a small easy to manage footprint that connects people and work. Add the x86 instruction set to a mobile device and you have quite a few options. If it can have Windows, it can have anything else. I proved that.

Add the x86-64 instruction and it really can have anything. That's why I would recommend this device(after seeing the ENTIRE hardware vendor list of course...).



As for me? I'm probably going to find a cheap HP TC1100 tablet somewhere on eBay for around $300. Sure I like the Nokias but the hardware just doesn't cut it for my standards AND the price. My N810 has GPS, has Pidgen, a decent remote control client and a minimalist Skype for when I need it. With simple communication tools I use my N810 as a mobile terminal connection. So far it works well as long as I do just that. What I need is a device that can handle(READ: USE) large documents with minimal I/O lag.

I don't really have buyer's remorse with my Nokia but it helped me discover there is definitely something else that I need to be using for a main computer other than these absurdly powerful desktops. When an application lags out(and dies) because of other apps in the foreground or stalls on saving large documents due to a weak CPU, it's a bit frustrating and I seriously don't need any more of that.

If I could find a cheap mobile pocketable device that has decent graphics acceleration on a 1024x768 res and a semi-weak midrange CPU like one of VIA's C7s or the Intel Atom, I doubt the eee PC would ever see the light of day again let alone previous model Nokias and potential competitors. Adding tablet input, it's a fast paced development system that can be used for an art box. Add a graphics accelerator and I have a powerful game device. Don't really need a large video out port when an MP3 player can detect a certain input jack that can be used to present audio and video(think about that). Add vmware and I have a mobile server. Beat THAT Steve Jobs! o_O

I like USB ports, they should be a standard on ALL mobile devices. At the very least. Recession or not, the pocket computing platform needs to evolve. Now.
 
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#244
Originally Posted by ColdFusion View Post
If you still don't understand, think hard if you should buy something that you have no idea of and are unwilling to learn it.
Isn't that common sense?
No, that is the ideal situation. The actual situation is that people need a computer but for every minute they have to spend on learning new things about it, there's one minute they'd rather use on something else lost. They will gather the information they think they need, or they will ask for advice from someone they know. Those someones opinions are usually based on a quite different point of view.

Most people care more about their spare time than their operation system. They are told to buy this or that computer by people who do care more about the operating systems than the poor consumers spare time.

Personally, I am quite ignorant about dog breeding and cat races. Knowledge for the sake of knowledge is not a point in itself. People want a computer they can use without too much fuzz.

And RTFM is a four letter word.

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#245
Originally Posted by ColdFusion View Post
It's not about computers or submarines.
If you buy something - you read the label, if you don't understand what you're buying - ask. If you still don't understand, think hard if you should buy something that you have no idea of and are unwilling to learn it.
Isn't that common sense?
We kind of lost focus. The point was...

NOKIA RECOMMENDS WINDOWS

To whom are you recommending it ? Everybody ? I sure hope not. If someone REQUIRES windows, it's not a question of recommendation. OTOH, if someone is dumb, or, far more often, lazy, let him pay the extra M$ fee (both monetary and performance/amortization) and be done with it. However, don't rob other users from the *CHOICE* of technically fully possible alternatives, WHATEVER the reason for their preference.
 
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#246
Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
We kind of lost focus. The point was...

NOKIA RECOMMENDS WINDOWS
I feel like I am defending their recommandation, but this whole thing has turned into "people buy windows because they're ignorant and they shouldn't be allowed a computer at all"
 
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#247
The problem is (from my viewpoint) marketing (you know, the glove in the face thing).

How can you, almost in the same breath, recommend windows, and at the same time launch/push a *VERTICAL* OS that is NOT Windows ? Am I the only who feels a slight logic indeficiency here ?
 
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#248
Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
How can you, almost in the same breath, recommend windows, and at the same time launch/push a *VERTICAL* OS that is NOT Windows ? Am I the only who feels a slight logic indeficiency here ?
Who has been talking about vertical OS? Eldar Murtazin? Would you really like to use Maemo5 UI and apps on laptop?
 
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
The problem is (from my viewpoint) marketing (you know, the glove in the face thing).

How can you, almost in the same breath, recommend windows, and at the same time launch/push a *VERTICAL* OS that is NOT Windows ? Am I the only who feels a slight logic indeficiency here ?
As Quim said just previously: "Sorry but do you mind specifying your sources? In our communication we are always clear that Maemo focuses on touchscreen devices that fit in your pocket."

Which vertical OS are you referring to? Has Nokia ever said that for instance Maemo would be a vertical OS?
 
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
The problem is (from my viewpoint) marketing (you know, the glove in the face thing).

How can you, almost in the same breath, recommend windows, and at the same time launch/push a *VERTICAL* OS that is NOT Windows ? Am I the only who feels a slight logic indeficiency here ?
I get what you're saying; however after dealing with companies like Hercules Inc., a company that made a wide range of products from rocket fuel to tv dinners (no joke), what Nokia is doing is offering a wide range of products.

Whether or not they will sync down the line, I'm curious to see that answered.
 
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