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2009-08-28
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Originally Posted by jaysin22
Yeah i noticed that. I would imagine those were prototype photos and the final product will be better. That may be the reason.
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2009-08-28
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#32
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Sorry for quoting myself, but it's related to the topic:
I have a fresh proto and firmware up to date. Usually that green light comes only with the sales start, precisely to avoid that consumers make conclusions based on unfinished software/hardware.
But if you happen to find me an afternoon in the leikkipuisto with my kids, I will show you.
The camera is also impressive, all sustained by GStreamer. Together with good lens and an impressive display, even my pictures look cool (sometimes, and the camera is not to blame). No hurries to transfer or upload the pictures to see them in a big screen: you get a fair impression of the real thing right there with your device. The Maemo team has several hobbyist photographers and all of us are waiting impatiently to get the green light and start uploading pics.
But if you happen to find me an afternoon in the leikkipuisto with my kids, I will show you.
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2009-08-28
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Originally Posted by pelago
http://twitpic.com/flf0e
Have you got a link to the twitpic page which links to that image, as it looks like direct linking isn't working and I was looking for a higher-res version than your attachment.
"The photo you were looking for has been deleted."
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2009-08-28
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@ Helsinki, Finland
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Originally Posted by jaysin22
hi
Anyone else notice that since we have been referring to aSIULAtor's Flick Photo's all the ones we were thinking were from a N900 have been removed. I wonder is that was because we stirred something up and they shouldn't have been posted. Maybe those were real picks.
just to make things clear, these images and videos that everyone seems to be speculating about were taken with my Panasonic Lumix point and shoot cam (FX500 to be exact - and it's a good camera, I just resize them for the web). If you're wondering about the smaller crappy images..well, they were taken with an iphone (gasp). All this information can also be found on my profile info on flickr...
In regards to photos being deleted..can't a girl do some quality control?
i tend to do this all the time with my flickr account, i upload some useless photos that i change my mind about whether or not i want to show them... @Chilko, sorry for the lame answer I gave you in that photo you questioned about, i was just really using a bit of vague and mysterious words for you to wonder about :P
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2009-08-28
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#35
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Thanks for coming and talking to us... please, come by more often. Don't be a stranger.
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2009-08-28
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hehe...will do, Maemo rules! 
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2009-08-29
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Originally Posted by drizek
Do you intend to try to convince anyone here that the 3mp camera in the iPhone is better than the 3mp camera in the 5800xm? That the iPhone camera at 3mp takes better quality photos than the N95 at 5mp? That the N95 is better than the N86 at 8mp? The fact of the matter is that although your first sentence is true in general purpose, there are many other factors that can influence image quality, such as the processing algorithms, the lens package, the physical size of the sensor, and other things.
The more megapixels a camera has, the crappier the individual pixels become. Phones shouldn't have more than one or two megapixels, otherwise they can only take decent pictures outdoors on sunny days. This is hte case here, and the case with almost all of these 5mp cameras. I would rather have the same 3mp as the iPhone, or less ideally.
I'd assume you've never had a flagship model Nseries phone in the last 5 years. They are THE leaders in cameraphone technology, with technology and patents shared with Kodak and Carl Zeiss as well, an unmatched combination you'll definitely change your mind about once you try one. This is the exact same camera module from the N97, so images should be similar in quality, i.e. excellent.
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2009-08-29
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#38
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Originally Posted by zerojay
I agree with zerojay. Thanks for stopping by and letting us know. asimulator.
Thanks for coming and talking to us... please, come by more often. Don't be a stranger.
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2009-08-29
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#39
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Originally Posted by christexaport
Ok thanks, I didn't know that... will test on my E71 in the meantime
If pixelpipe comes to Maemo, which I expect, you can upload to nearly every service with simplicity. Its easy on Symbian, at least.
I didn't know about sharepy neither, thanks
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2009-08-29
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Originally Posted by christexaport
I didn't say that the iPhone camera was better, we haven't been able to compare them yet. What I was saying is that apples decision to go with 3mp instead of 5 was a good one. The E86 has a large sensor, basically the same as the one on a point n shoot. Still, the pictures are not as good as what you get from an 8mp canon, but they are definitely acceptable.
Do you intend to try to convince anyone here that the 3mp camera in the iPhone is better than the 3mp camera in the 5800xm? That the iPhone camera at 3mp takes better quality photos than the N95 at 5mp? That the N95 is better than the N86 at 8mp? The fact of the matter is that although your first sentence is true in general purpose, there are many other factors that can influence image quality, such as the processing algorithms, the lens package, the physical size of the sensor, and other things.
I'd assume you've never had a flagship model Nseries phone in the last 5 years. They are THE leaders in cameraphone technology, with technology and patents shared with Kodak and Carl Zeiss as well, an unmatched combination you'll definitely change your mind about once you try one. This is the exact same camera module from the N97, so images should be similar in quality, i.e. excellent.
Post processing, storage, uploading photos is a huge issue on phones. They don't have dedicated image processing hardware, and they can't store and upload large file sizes. So when you have these large megapixel files, in order to be able to process and upload them efficiently you have to compromise quality for performance and then quality for file size. A smaller mp file can be better processed and stored with less compression while retaining the same or smaller file size.
The other thing you're somethat wrong about is color reproduction and sharpness. The higher resolution camera means the bayer RGB array is spread out through more pixels, so the 5Mpix cam *CAN* make FAR better (sharper and better colors) 1.3Mpix photo than a 1.3Mpix camera if it's implemented correctly. If it's crap, it's crap, but it's not the pixel COUNT that makes it crap (it's just a part of the equation).