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2009-09-01 , 23:45
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Since the N900 supports the 3G AWS band of T-Mo US (and other reasons), it does not make sense that it would not be sold by T-Mo US.

I am aware that some carriers have required features such as BT and WiFi to be crippled from smartphones, but not T-Mo US. Does anyone know of such an instance, what phone and what feature?
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Remember also that there are many insidious ways of crippling. Maybe features won't get cut, but software updates can be blocked and crapware get installed.... At least this is what carriers do here anyway.

If the N900 doesn't reach the US market with a subsidy, because the carrier wants to cripple it and Nokia don't, then kudos to Nokia and the fault lies in the carrier and the customers that let those abuses happen.
 

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I believe I read recently that the US is racist against phones from other countries. :-X
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they need to put this video on a commercial in US

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsbuZFv0C0Q

People here are so used to just doing whatever the carrier says they can do, they will probably think this is illegal
 
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I believe I read recently that the US is racist against phones from other countries. :-X
A lot of US bloggers and analysts definitely seem to be like that...
 
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2009-09-02 , 00:40
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Sad news?

Just found this on a blog

http://www.nokiamobiletalk.com/2009/...volution-nw09/

And let me correct one last pet peeve of mine. Many tech review sites are calling the N900 by it’s part number (RX-51). Was the iPhone 3G ever mentioned in any review site as “MB504 B”? The Codename of the N900 is Rover, and will likely NOT be carried by T-Mobile USA, although it is likely to be carried by T-Mobile Europe. T-Mobile in the US does not like Nokia N series of devices because of Nokia’s unwillingness to cripple their product, Apple on the other hand…?

The problems with statements like this is unless this person works for Nokia or T-Mobile at a high level they don't know. Like the iPhone a deal like this includes exclusive rights to the phone. I don't think Nokia would go thru all this work to support the T-Mobile bands just to exclude the NA market. T-Mobile might see this a way to build market share, especially since they don't have the Pre or iPhone. But I imagine we'll see tomorrow
 
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Remember also that there are many insidious ways of crippling. Maybe features won't get cut, but software updates can be blocked and crapware get installed.... At least this is what carriers do here anyway.

If the N900 doesn't reach the US market with a subsidy, because the carrier wants to cripple it and Nokia don't, then kudos to Nokia and the fault lies in the carrier and the customers that let those abuses happen.
We keep talking about crippling, but this phone would be very hard if not impossible to cripple. The best they could do is block traffic for things such as VOIP. Given you have root access you could remove any "crapware" that gets installed.
 
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Remember also that there are many insidious ways of crippling. Maybe features won't get cut, but software updates can be blocked and crapware get installed.... At least this is what carriers do here anyway.
You seem to be painting all US carriers with the same brush. Verizon for example is known to have crippled BT and WiFi. I am not aware that T-MO has done that.
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You seem to be painting all US carriers with the same brush. Verizon for example is known to have crippled BT and WiFi. I am not aware that T-MO has done that.
T-Mobile did limit 3rd party Java apps on some phones... the Nokia 5300 or 6086 if I remember correctly a couple years back.

I can't name of too many incidents though.
 

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Sometimes "crippling" is passive aggressive. Service providers with the their own networks have been known to throttle bandwidth of competing services for example.

Ah, (the bastardized version of) net neutrality...
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