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#21
Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing View Post
2) Nokia is not going to ship the N900 with low quality. We are introducing a major milestone in the evolution of Maemo and, therefore, the quality of the experience must be the same or better than our smartphones.
Unless Nokia have started with the Microsoft way of "vista is perfect", which makes me laugh just thinking about it, this is fine for me.

I have more faith in Peter/qgil and Nokia than some third party reviewer, no matter how reputable he may or may not be.

I will also be the first to say how terrible the n900 is, and be the first to shout from the rooftops about how fantastic it is.
I know we are all getting frustrated and are desperate for this device, but lets just wait.

Maybe Nokia should get everyone's credit card details off maemo talk, not release any information about the release and just mail us the devices directly and then release info? lol
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development cycle for new "smart"phones is at least 2 years. that means that a device to be released in 2011 can sport a completely new generation of chips.

omap4 is announced for 2010 and is said to have multicore, a clock of 1ghz (out of the box!), enough processing power for 1080p decoding (something that not even some notebooks manage) and 720p recording (read: encoding on the fly).

Note that I have no idea what 2011's phones will have under the hood, the omap4 is just a possible example.

comparing an omap3 phone to a prototype with one of these monster chips is completely pointless. no one would complain that the n810 would be less potent than its possible successor.

tl;dr: in 2-3 years there will be awesome phones.
 

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From what I'm gathering, it IS the LiMo powered device with a TouchWiz interface. What do you guys know about LiMo? Anyone with first hand experience?

...and guys, PLEASE call me Chris or christexaport, not CHRIST! I'm a Christian, and that is disrespectful to my savior. My name is a play on "Chris Tech Support" and "CHRIS from TEXas born in ShrevePORT". Hope that makes it easier to remember.
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have people forgotten the N900 that popped up on some forum, for sale?
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Originally Posted by christexaport View Post
What do you guys know about LiMo?
I'll admit to knowing next to nothing about it. I can simply say that I was given a negative impression of the project by the few LiMo presentations I attended at OSiM World 2008.

What I got from LiMo presentations:
  • Corporations buy into the LiMo Foundation, pool their patents, and cooperate to build a closed-source mobile platform on top of Linux.
  • LiMo did not appear to be interested in having small companies or independent developers join. Developers were complaining of unreasonably expensive membership fees and an attitude of "bring patents or stop wasting our time".
  • Parts of the free software world are watching LiMo carefully. A free software lawyer in the audience asked about some possible GPL violations by LiMo, and the presenters replied that they were careful to follow the letter of the law, but there was an almost "catch us if you can" vibe there.
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Originally Posted by quingu View Post
development cycle for new "smart"phones is at least 2 years. that means that a device to be released in 2011 can sport a completely new generation of chips.

omap4 is announced for 2010 and is said to have multicore, a clock of 1ghz (out of the box!), enough processing power for 1080p decoding (something that not even some notebooks manage) and 720p recording (read: encoding on the fly).

Note that I have no idea what 2011's phones will have under the hood, the omap4 is just a possible example.

comparing an omap3 phone to a prototype with one of these monster chips is completely pointless. no one would complain that the n810 would be less potent than its possible successor.


tl;dr: in 2-3 years there will be awesome phones.
The processor that eldar spoke of also was medfeild which is an intel 32nm soc... He says power drain is comparable to today but nothing special but will be widely available about he 2011 time frame... Interesting devices would be built off this hardware platform... Samsung could possible use a chip to power the linux device. But arm omap4 would be pretty competent as well it's successor after so choices with hardware software for 2011 should be plentiful...
 
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What no one has caught onto is that Maemo has legitimate competition, and only a short time away. We didn't think this yesterday, but now we probably should. What I was saying is what could be close to Maemo? What OS are they using? I doubt its LiMo with the TouchWiz UI that I'd seen at presentations in the past. So what is it??
Access Linux Platform is still out there. It looked pretty good on the Emblaze devices. Maybe Samsung picked up some of that.
 
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Can someone move this thread to Competitors, please?

There is something interesting in the fact that someone can be impressed today about the software of a device shipping in 2011. And from Samsung.

Something looks funny in my pocket calculator.
 

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holy cow... call me a prophet
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/a...-its-not-2008/
ARM's doing some chest thumping today by revealing a 2GHz clock speed on its dual-core Cortex-A9 processor. [...] ARM's even handing out benchmarks showing the Cortex A9 out performing Intel's single-core 1.6GHz Atom N270
 
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and the cortex-A9 design can go quad-core...
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