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2009-09-23
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At least it wasn't another silly poll about egos. 
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2009-09-23
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Originally Posted by Texrat
Smarter folks than me are saying it.
I understand what you're saying YoDude, having heard it for years... but I guess it just continues to confound me that any voter would let himself or herself be influenced by exit polls. Hell my own family can't even influence my vote!
Michael C. Dorf
Craig J. Albert
Neil H. Buchanan
Sherry F. Colb
Jamison Colburn
Michael W. Dowdle
Cristie Ford
David Gold
Thomas Healy
Ori Herstein
Anil Kalhan
Adrienne B. Koch
Paul Scott
Animalblawg
Balkinization
Blackprof
Cornell Law School
Georgetown Law Faculty
How Appealing
IntLawGrrls
Jurisdynamics
Legal History Blog
Legal Theory
Leiter's Law School Reports
Prawfsblawg
Scotusblog
U Chicago Law Faculty
Volokh Conspiracy
The above is a list of blogs and sites that have posted an opinion on this.
So I suppose that I am as Penguinbait says: just a sheep
I may be just a sheep but I do know when I'm being played by someone who thinks he is smarter than us sheep...
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2009-09-23
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#54
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I'm not arguing your point, just expressing my dismay.
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2009-09-23
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pffft, any way this poll is broken, it didnt ask for the token dneary gave me 7nOkiApUlL
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2009-09-23
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i think this can sway final results b/c if someone can see a person they don't kinda like is in the running for a seat then they might strategically give there votes to that persons closest rival and try mess up there chances in real election.
what you have to remember also with exit polls where national politics are concerned its based on percentage of people, so they might only publish results of 10,000 people out a population of say 100 million so exit poll are based on tiny percent and have known to be completely wrong.
here though its not a tiny percent its basically anyone on site who cares and results here are more probable to be how it will turn out in real results
what you have to remember also with exit polls where national politics are concerned its based on percentage of people, so they might only publish results of 10,000 people out a population of say 100 million so exit poll are based on tiny percent and have known to be completely wrong.
here though its not a tiny percent its basically anyone on site who cares and results here are more probable to be how it will turn out in real results
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2009-09-23
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Originally Posted by YoDude
I don't see this being so dangerous here because of the voting method. Thanks to STV there are no votes lost so people don't need to be afraid to vote for someone who looks unlikely to win.
No matter what the intent, published results of an exit poll will effect votes not yet cast.
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Someone had a signature awhile ago about the states of a cat in a box that now somehow seems appropriate.
With STV it is best to vote for your preferred candidate no matter how popular he is. Either your surplus vote will help your next one or if your first one is out your second one counts.
Maybe there is still some space for tactical voting but fortunately most if not all candidates are great so we cannot spoil much here :-)
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2009-09-23
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Originally Posted by YoDude
What I said is that your sheep IF this changes how you vote. As I also stated STV (like Fanoush) makes this impossible.
Smarter folks than me are saying it.
Michael C. Dorf
Craig J. Albert
Neil H. Buchanan
Sherry F. Colb
Jamison Colburn
Michael W. Dowdle
Cristie Ford
David Gold
Thomas Healy
Ori Herstein
Anil Kalhan
Adrienne B. Koch
Paul Scott
Animalblawg
Balkinization
Blackprof
Cornell Law School
Georgetown Law Faculty
How Appealing
IntLawGrrls
Jurisdynamics
Legal History Blog
Legal Theory
Leiter's Law School Reports
Prawfsblawg
Scotusblog
U Chicago Law Faculty
Volokh Conspiracy
The above is a list of blogs and sites that have posted an opinion on this.
So I suppose that I am as Penguinbait says: just a sheep
I may be just a sheep but I do know when I'm being played by someone who thinks he is smarter than us sheep...
I ran the Exit poll as exit polls are run. It was done independently by maemo.org, I cannot control how people vote, NOR AM I ATTEMPTING TO. Quite frankly I am shocked at the allegations.
I understand you don't like Exit polls, and some other "smarter than you" people also don't like them. I however do, and I think their is many people smarter than me who also do. Should I create a list?
Better yet a poll, is there anything wrong with exit polls?
I understand what you are saying Yodude, I just don't support your opinion.
Do you really think this was done to get me extra votes? I thought I was a conspiracy theorist?
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2009-09-23
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Originally Posted by fanoush
Straw man.
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Maybe there is still some space for tactical voting but fortunately most if not all candidates are great so we cannot spoil much here :-)
However I forgot about STV... indeed, STV makes a compare with real-life election systems (usually some form of plurality) inaccurate because STV provides a lot more protection mechanisms against tactical voting.
But maybe a non-candidate could have started the exit poll. Penguinbait, are you able to see who voted for who in the exit poll?
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2009-09-23
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Originally Posted by geneven
Not an issue here: everyone gets an anonymous token generated for them after their vote has been cast. They should store this away as all the votes are published in their raw form. People should verify that their anonymous token appears against their own vote.
Exit polls are wonderful things -- they provide an independent estimation of how the election will turn out.
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