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2009-09-24 , 10:32
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#121
Originally Posted by zkyevolved View Post
Halloween! <sings> this is halloween, this is halloween, HALLOWEEN HALLOWEEN halloween halloween.
Oh, so the N900 will become a nightmare before Christmas.
I hope it won't be a nightmare.
 
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2009-09-24 , 10:35
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Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
yes that was only rhetoric question. Bet that if Eldar really knew the guy, he'd know how to spell the name...

oli = was, olli = mans name in Finland.
Maybe the name was transliterated as "оли" in Cyrillic and he just wrote that in latin letters. I don't know.
 
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2009-09-24 , 10:36
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Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
yes that was only rhetoric question. Bet that if Eldar really knew the guy, he'd know how to spell the name...

oli = was, olli = mans name in Finland.
I know I said that as a joke. I really doubt Elder know any him or others in reality and the only reason he put their names was for making fun of them.


From now, lets fight fire with fire (spelling his name wrong might be one way)
 
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2009-09-24 , 10:43
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#124
You're missing article's main point: the problem is not the unstable software itself (it will be stable enough for us geeks!), but the fact that lots of ordinary users will buy N900 just because it's Nokia's flagman, and they will compare it to other OS-es they are used to and will find missing features and instability, get frustrated and (likely) move elsewhere. Note that he does not speak of Maemo5 geek-friendly features like being a full Linux distro, command line access, X-server etc.
So, the target audience of this review are ordinary (non-geek) users, and for such users Maemo5 in its current state is not the best solution. Thus, the less non-geeks will buy N900 the better.
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2009-09-24 , 10:50
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#125
Originally Posted by buru View Post
You're missing article's main point: the problem is not the unstable software itself (it will be stable enough for us geeks!), but the fact that lots of ordinary users will buy N900 just because it's Nokia's flagman, and they will compare it to other OS-es they are used to and will find missing features and instability, get frustrated and (likely) move elsewhere.
How exactly is he supposed to assume that when he's testing OLD unfinished firmware on a prototype device?

The main point of the article is "Maemo 5 review", but it's not even done yet... so for him to be blasting away at it for being unfinished when he's testing a firmware release not meant for the public is completely ******ed and is a move designed to generate this kind of buzz. At best, it's completely unprofessional. At worst, he's just an attention whore and we should all stop feeding into it.
 

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2009-09-24 , 10:59
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#126
Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
Okay.. I forgot about that.. but there's still no specific date there. Things change. Bugs are found and fixed... it's the circle of electronic life.
Nokia's shop in DE still quotes 12th of October (depending on product availability ...)
 
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
My friend, you underestimate the power of money. Nobody is safe against a corporation or organization with money and a vendetta.
It's only worth a corporation going after an individual if that individual has sufficient wealth and assets to make the recompense worthwhile. Otherwise you spend a lot of money to make a point. That may, or may not, be best for shareholder value in the medium to long term.
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2009-09-24 , 11:07
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#128
@zerojay the device is not released yet, so final software does not exists. I suppose he had tested a plenty of pre-release devices and knows something about relative instability of different pre-release OS-es. Besides, he also seems to be informed about Maemo updates/releases cycle (talks about Q2 2010 major update), so he could estimate Maemo5 October state with high degree of accuracy.

P.S. I read Mobile-Review regularly and I've never heard anti-Nokia bias from Eldar Murtazin (contrary to that, he seems to be a bit too pro-Nokia). Thus, I think either it's the objective state of affairs or some kind of Nokia's own play to frighten non-geeks from the product.
 
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2009-09-24 , 11:09
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#129
Originally Posted by pycage View Post
Of course October 31st would still be in October.
As would be October 45th

SCNR.
 
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2009-09-24 , 11:15
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Originally Posted by access View Post
Perhaps the shipping date is pushed back because so many people have pre-ordered and they can't produce the N900s fast enough to ship it to everyone in October.
IIRC, they had supply problems with the N770. Although I pre-ordered direct from Nokia, I did so slightly too late as I ended up getting one from some second manufacturing run and did not get mine until a few weeks after the initial release
 
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