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#51
Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
you're concerned about market shares. i'm concerned about getting a product that's right for me, not for others.
Ok , I know what you mean. But to get what's right for you, market share still matters. IOW, if you want to have products to choose from, there has to be a market for them. So, what works for others must be considered. One customer does not make a production run.
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To the worried ones, you can safely consider your comments fruit of paranoia.

Texrat, you are in the council now and you will be in Amsterdam next week. Seriously, go ask Peter or Ari.

He is a top executive from one company moving to another company. He is not heading the R&D function that Ari keeps heading but goes to lead the business function that is elsewhere in the company and you have probably never heard about. This kind of moves happen in big corporations. Business as usual.

Nokia has a strategy with Maemo and, just like in any corporation, the hirings are made to implement the strategy successfully.

Please move on unless you enjoy FUD and paranoia.
 

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Quim, thanks for that, but really-- it's good to let people vent, and their concerns should be received and considered rather than summarily dismissed. In fact the latter induces more paranoia.

Think of my involvement here as talking people down from ledges.
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I think what people are worried about is the delicate balance between open source and profit. Nokia has an amazing opportunity to bring open source to phones before a single closed-source OS takes over like it did with PCs. Linux on PCs faces a much steeper uphill battle. People hope that Nokia will prove the commercial viability of an open source system, which will lead the way to greater acceptance of open source in PCs and other products.

I personally believe the balance between open source and profit to be extremely delicate... just look what happened to lcuk over the past week. This is how much people care about open source.

One top-level employee could easily throw off this balance.
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Originally Posted by legendemeritus View Post
with three phones, Apple has invaded Nokia's marketplace. I would like some of that back frankly! (as typed on a MacBook)
i am not sure they have. nokia still have a solid presence in africa an asia from what i understand, and where basically nowhere to be found in north america, especially usa.

about the only marketplace apple may have invaded is europe, and i am getting the impression that the customer response was a fair bit more relaxed then usa (tho this may vary by nation).
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Discussions like this are part of a natural, human process and need to play out... especially in the spirit of openness.
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Discussions like this are part of a natural, human process and need to play out... especially in the spirit of openness.
sadly, when first started, they may never come to an agreement, as its just as much emotions as logic involved...
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Originally Posted by tso View Post
sadly, when first started, they may never come to an agreement, as its just as much emotions as logic involved...
Absolutely, but again: if the dialog is stifled, paranoia and distrust escalate.

That's why facilitators, negotiators and moderators stay busy.
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Originally Posted by legendemeritus View Post
I just dont want my $600 tablet (with Maemo) to flop like S60.
flop? s60? what planet are you on? (not only is it a phenomenal success in terms of market share, it's also still the OS of choice for me for phones... and probably will remain for a few more years, as long as S60v3 phones are available.)
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
flop? s60? what planet are you on? (not only is it a phenomenal success in terms of market share, it's also still the OS of choice for me for phones... and probably will remain for a few more years, as long as S60v3 phones are available.)
he is walking into the common fallacy that USA == world...
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