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2009-10-03 , 23:09
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Originally Posted by spinnukur View Post
For keeping it such a low profile, allot of buzz sure did happen via phonescoop, engadget, cnet, gizmodo, probably the foremost sites for technology gurus as well as the videos we saw on youtube before Nokia had even confirmed they had the N900. When any of the aforementioned sites imo releases a review on a phone, thats kind of hard to take that is a 'low profile' on Nokia's part. Just saying is all.
Don't get me wrong. None of them officially represents Nokia. I am sure people actually do Maemo marketing will laugh. By the way, I did not see any hype from Engadget. They still used their irony tone bashing as much as could.

Also most of demo videos are coming from some voluntarily developers, such as lcuk for onedotzero (really awesome one!). Or some previewers, whether their channel to get the device from.

There is only one official maemo handon video is taken by qguil, unless I missed something.

Man, I should post something more meaningful but I could not stand these WOMs blind the truth.
 
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2009-10-03 , 23:29
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#532
Originally Posted by bbns View Post
Don't get me wrong. None of them officially represents Nokia. I am sure people actually do Maemo marketing will laugh. By the way, I did not see any hype from Engadget. They still used their irony tone bashing as much as could.

Also most of demo videos are coming from some voluntarily developers, such as lcuk for onedotzero (really awesome one!). Or some previewers, whether their channel to get the device from.

There is only one official maemo handon video is taken by qguil, unless I missed something.

Man, I should post something more meaningful but I could not stand these WOMs blind the truth.
Doesn't really matter if it's an official or unofficial video, any person will know, that releasing any kind of video that hints or shows proof of a built product by a company that know's people will want in itself, is enough to create hype within the phone industry. If a company truly wants to keep something a secret, they don't have there marketing and/or PR department create anything at all that will reveal it's existence nor do they leak or hint of it's existence.

True, engadget does have their usual monochromatic tone that they have, but still when a website as savy as engadget carry's a story on it, it peaks our interest and starts us to investigate if it really does or doesn't exist.

I just want my damn N900...
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2009-10-04 , 17:07
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Originally Posted by spinnukur View Post
Just looked on Nokia USA under specs for the N900, and I know for a fact it used to say "32GB Internal Storage" now it say's "Up to 32GB Internal Storage". Is Nokia just completely screwing this phone up? They made allot of hipe over this thing, I'll be really disappointed if they totally screw over the specs...and will consider cancelling my order.
Yes, it provides 'up to 32 GB' because for example 1 GB is used in home dir and to save program data and such.
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2009-10-04 , 17:56
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Sounds like a case of lawyers rewriting specs. Kind of like hard drives, where a gig is not really a gig.
 
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That's more how the OS makers vs. hard drive makers decided how to quantify memory. I think it was 10^2 vs 10 something. But in this case it's more in reality the device comes with 32 GB space but some of it is taken up by the OS, then some by swap, then some by this and that. But if you were to combine it all, it would be 32 GB. Like how my Sony VAIO said it came with 160 GBs but it was split between a 8-10 GB Vista recovery partition, and the rest Vista (though now I gave most of the space to Ubuntu)
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck View Post
Sounds like a case of lawyers rewriting specs. Kind of like hard drives, where a gig is not really a gig.
Actually, the hardware manufacturers are right, as the unit Giga means 1,000,000,000. So a Gigabyte is correctly 1,000,000,000 bytes.
In the software world 1 Gigabyte used to be 1024 x 1024 x 1024 bytes, but now this unit is officially called GiB (Gibibyte) to avoid confusion.
Of course I have never heard anybody say "Gibibyte". It would sound too funny!
 

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Originally Posted by pycage View Post
Actually, the hardware manufacturers are right, as the unit Giga means 1,000,000,000. So a Gigabyte is correctly 1,000,000,000 bytes.
In the software world 1 Gigabyte used to be 1024 x 1024 x 1024 bytes, but now this unit is officially called GiB (Gibibyte) to avoid confusion.
Of course I have never heard anybody say "Gibibyte". It would sound too funny!
Well, the hardware manufacturers are right *now* after the "kibi/mebi/gibi" thing was manufactured by the IEEE following the hard-drive vendors being sued for false advertising. Nothing like changing the rules mid-stream to win the argument LOL.

From a pure metric point of view...the "new" system makes more sense from a general perspective though there is a *lot* of computer industry momentum in the old "kilo=1024" mindset that will probably take a generation of old farts (relatively speaking) like me to retire in order to finally put to rest.
 

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2009-10-05 , 15:40
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1024 is a more logical unit of measurement, I guess I'm an old fart too then. There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't.
 

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2009-10-05 , 18:08
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I think it's all about dumbing down. Perhaps we should have 10-bit bytes too, although the Americans would probably want 12 ;-)
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There isn't really a "misleading memory size" conspiracy here. As some have noted, the numbers are due to various factors primarily the difference between decimal/binary combined with marketing guys not understanding the technical stuff.

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