Quim and Council -- Thanks for all the hard work. As stated in another post -- I am willing to do the leg work on the list. Here is the list from Maemo/download of devs that have < 200 Karma.
Please note if there was zero downloads and older I didn't bother adding them to the list. some of these have really high download counts. Some authors actually did multiple apps; but I only listed the first app I came across of that author.


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Adam Harwell & Jonas Hurrelmann - Advanced Backlight Control
Pavel Fialko - Other Weather Control
Pauli Virtanen - Gutenbrowse v0.1.1
Denes Matetelki - Give
Vladislav Grinchenko - Granule/Flashcards
Glen Ditchfield - Battle for Westfield
Sami Kyöstilä - N-Speed
Terrence Fleury - X-Word
Enrique Ocaña González - Gtk Shishen Sho Mahjongg
Luca De Cicco - GPE Sudoku
Sergio Melas - SuperTux (199 Karma)
Andrew Godwin - OpenTTD
Wilson Tang - Pokerth
Joni Kokko - Pool for maemo
Toni Nichev - Rescue 1
Jiri Benc - Fred
Paul Mangan - Claws Mail
Ricardo Mones - Claws Mail
George Kibardin - Feed Circuit
Andrew Sichevoi - Conler
Eero af Heurlin - Maemo Plazer
dik - Zapys
Renato Chencarek - Canola
Koos Vriezen - KMPlayer
Marko Nykanen - Maemo Recorder
Jari Tenhunen - Maemo Recorder
mihai iancu - MyTube
Olivier ROLAND - Streamtuner
Pavel Rojtberg - YouAmp
Arto Karppinen - Irreco
Harri Vattulainen - Irreco
Pekka Gehör - Irreco
Joni Kokko - Irreco
Sami Mäki - Irreco
Josep Torra - Tuner Tool
Nick Nobody - Panucci
Benoit Goudreault-Emond - CbrPager
Riku Pelander - Mythetomer
Ivan Gagis - Theremin
Sanna Salmijärvi - GPS Camera
Holger Macht - Maemo Music Player Client
Sampath Jagannathan - Boxar
Thibault Lamy - MCEGuru
Ricky Brent - Comix
Owen Williams - Sonata MPD Client
Tomas Brandysky - Linux Kiss Server
Dariusz Wiechecki - mDictionary
Luca Ognibene - Home Bank
Patrick Ohly - SyncEvolution
Boris Tobotras - NoTap
Magnus Kulke - Xarchiver
Wellu Mäkinen - Speedometer
lauren roberts - Mgcal
Igor Tkach - Sdict Viewer
Rob Williams - Flip Clock
Willem-Jan de Hoog - Gosmore
Jason Edgecombe - OpenAFS
Timothy Terriberry - Gjiten
Thomas Pietrowski - CTorrent
Pierre Amadio - Rapier (He has indicated he does not have time to maintain this -- hence my (Nathan) porting it to fremantle)
Tatu Mannisto - Free42 HP Calc
Luis Lorenzo - Maemo Periodic Table
Yann Benigot - TiEmu2
Kimitake - OpenNTPD
Fernando Mercado - Maemo WOL
Pekka Rönkkö - GPS City Guide / Map Downloader / Simple Mapper
Gerrit Visser - Navit VSVN
Daniel Would - Navit VSVN
charles werbick - Roadmap for Diablo


This is the complete list on Maemo Downloads of Devs < 200
It would probably be better if someone could just export the db -- most devs actually have more than one app; but if I already "clicked" on their name I didn't bother gathering the app since I knew I had already looked at their profile.

Nathan
P.S. If the Council would like; I'm willing to spend a bit of time in the repository looking at some of the apps in their and grabbing the names. But again, if we have a db of what has been uploaded or if some astute linux admin wants to run a script actually on the repository server pulling out the uploader from the debian/control file and the name of the app we could get a better picture.

No, actually I didn't pick up another device at the summit as we were told not to. I just spoke to Daniel and got the last video-out cable.

Had I picked one up, I would certainly be sending it over to derf/tterribe.

Well yeah I'd happily do that, just as long as I won't be left without a device come the end of the 6 month loan period.

Though tbh I could probably get one on contract then anyway, so sign me up, I don't need two of them.

I think nobody with pre-production devices asked for a new one at the summit AFAIK, that would be very greedy attitude IMHO.

I followed your link and read this:

Are you blaming Quim, the previous Council, or the membership for voting in a new Council member?

Sorry for the misunderstanding about the Summit devices.

Alright, let's move forward.

I propose to maintain a prioritized waiting list of projects with the council. The aim being that remarkable community projects have at least acces to one device for development and testing. This implies that the projects need to have a will to deliver software for Maemo 5 and it also implies that the prioritization covers one device per project. The objective of this is to make sure that the loaned devices fall in the hands of active and interested developers, and also that the devices are well distributed across the community.

I'm happy to discuss the prioritization of projects with the council.

Quim, thanks for your willingness to keep working with people here.

I really do have to ask people here:

maemo.org and the karma system have been around for several years. There have been multiple previous device discount programs. Quim made it clear several months ago that applications in Extras and participation in maemo.org were important for consideration in the current programs, and there was even a thread where Quim posted his intentions to use karma to determine device discounts.

Several people are acting belligerent, hurt, surprised, and several other negative, inappropriate emotions. Can you really say, in all honesty, that you didn't see any of this coming? That this came out of nowhere?

Come on. This kind of behaviour really strikes me as petulant at best and dishonest at worst.

I am actually quite embarrassed by the behaviour of our community here.

Just so you understand, I believe that "It doesn't hurt to ask," but if the answer is "No," you don't start pouting and crying.

qole, well put! I've contemplated using the 'ignore user' function on t.m.o for the first time as a result of some of the posts in the past two days.

Qole, this was perfect rant that should IMO belong to some other thread then this. Those other two about developer program would be better choice. This one is serious attempt to figure out how many people fell through cracks of current Karma implementation and what can be done to fix it. Is there something wrong with this?

Ah, so much passion and energy that could be put to productive use...

How the hell did the chain slip off the gears here?

Anyway, I'm looking to get back that post-Summit glow. Enough squabbling, boys and girls. There's plenty of positive channels for this enthusiasm.