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2009-10-24
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Originally Posted by SD69
Why does it matter that one particular project doesn't want to run/deal-with other OSes? I think his point was that the needs of the larger community (not just the Diablo Community) are best served by the older devices (and the drivers for their components) being open enough to support any particular OS, not just an open-Diablo.
Since the Community SSU is part of the Diablo Community Project
http://wiki.maemo.org/Diablo_Community_Project
we're not interested in running Android or Ubuntu.
If the group that is pursuing the opening up of these components isn't doing it for the larger community, then that group isn't worth giving any attention to, as they're just another myopic group only showing self interest ... instead of community interest. Not exactly in the spirit of the ideals of FOSS there.
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2009-10-24
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#43
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err, i think it may be time we all sat down and rested for a while...
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2009-10-24
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#44
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I will rest when the N810 doesn't require blobs to access hardware. I will buy a N900 when it meets the same criteria.
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2009-10-25
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What is your definition of "blobs"? If you take it in the strictest sense (including CPU microcode, ROM, firmware, kernel drivers, userspace daemons etc) it sounds like you'll never own any computing hardware that does anything interesting.
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2009-10-25
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What a pessimistic view! Technically, a SoC without designs is a blob. But as I have expressed many a time, I am willing to compromise and tolerate closed hardware and even closed firmware for the time being. But there is no excuse for anything to be run on the CPU, especially not for a device that attempts to market itself as being "open" in some way.
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2009-10-25
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#47
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
There is much that could be said, but suffice it to say the most prevalent devices in this community for the last couple years have been N8x0 devices running Diablo - and so the Diablo Community Project probably has the broadest swath across the community.
Why does it matter that one particular project doesn't want to run/deal-with other OSes? I think his point was that the needs of the larger community (not just the Diablo Community) are best served by the older devices (and the drivers for their components) being open enough to support any particular OS, not just an open-Diablo.
If the group that is pursuing the opening up of these components isn't doing it for the larger community, then that group isn't worth giving any attention to, as they're just another myopic group only showing self interest ... instead of community interest. Not exactly in the spirit of the ideals of FOSS there.
Last edited by SD69; 2009-10-25 at 13:56.
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2009-10-25
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#48
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Originally Posted by SD69
As Diablo is an obsoleted version of Maemo, I don't see why something Diablo-specific has any relevance.
There is much that could be said, but suffice it to say the most prevalent devices in this community for the last couple years have been N8x0 devices running Diablo - and so the Diablo Community Project probably has the broadest swath across the community.
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