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DaveP1	2009-11-09 , 21:12
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Originally Posted by Fargus

Eek - Formula Translation - aaagh. Ooh the nightmares of coding in that. Bloody fast and very efficient but i still bear the trauma from cross coding from DEC to PRIME! LOL

Pascal could be interesting though if you're an ALGOL guy then C/C++ or Java and Python shouldn't be too far away from where you feel comfy. C might be the closest though.

Actually, I haven't been an ALGOL (ALGOrithmic Language, since we're spelling things out for the kids) since Burroughs made mainframes. COBOL (COmmon Business Oriented Language) was my forte.

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	rm42	2009-11-09 , 21:15
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Its not how many languages you know that counts, but how many Maemo apps will you develop.

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	Fargus	2009-11-09 , 21:16
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Originally Posted by dormant

Sorry for any ignorance, but isn't fortran now part of gcc, so maybe it already exists for the Nxx0 tablets?

Hey wouldn't say it was ignorant or not but be interesting to know - might be able to do some crunching at sensible speeds now (tablets are way faster than the junk I was working on! LOL).

Anyone know this situation?

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	Den in USA	2009-11-09 , 21:33
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Originally Posted by daperl

Do you program in any other languages? If so, what? If not, why not?

Back in 1981, I was working in an engineering lab trained as an electronic tech. Since I was poor and could not afford an expensive HP programable calculator that the engineers had, I built what was later to be called the Timex Sinclair portable computer. At first, there were no apps for it so I learned basic so that I could run long engineering formulas. I still work in the Test Engineering section of that same company. A large Software Engineering sections writes all of our software in C++.

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texaslabrat	2009-11-10 , 00:04
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Originally Posted by Fargus

Hey wouldn't say it was ignorant or not but be interesting to know - might be able to do some crunching at sensible speeds now (tablets are way faster than the junk I was working on! LOL).

Anyone know this situation?

fortran's been in gcc main for a long time..dunno if the maemo port includes it though. And I've got a lot of hours logged in good ol' f77 too...I actually quite like the structured, "deterministic" feel of it. But I was an engineering student, not a computer science major...so it was usually about making a program to find out something we were actually interested in...ie a means to an end. Fortran was beautiful for that (after the punch card era was dead and buried, that is).

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	dormant	2009-11-10 , 00:35
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I spent my formattive years on FORTRAN. Also dropped an entire tray of cards with my program once. Wasted a lot of time getting FORTRAN IV to sort strings.

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	PhilE	2009-11-10 , 00:51
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isn't fortran now part of gcc

Looks like it is, at least on my Mandriva 2008.1 server:

Code:

$ [phile@caprica:/home/phile]
cat /etc/mandriva-release
Mandriva Linux release 2008.1 (Official) for i586
[phile@caprica:/home/phile]
$ urpmq -a fortran
gcc-gfortran
gcc4.3-gfortran
libgfortran2
libgfortran3
manbo-mandriva-files-gcc-gfortran
[phile@caprica:/home/phile]
$ urpmq -i gcc4.3-gfortran
Name        : gcc4.3-gfortran
Version     : 4.3.0
Release     : 3mdv2008.1
Group       : Development/Other
Size        : 12897024                     Architecture: i586
Source RPM  : gcc4.3-4.3.0-3mdv2008.1.src.rpm
URL         : http://gcc.gnu.org/
Summary     : Fortran 95 support for gcc
Description :
This package adds support for compiling Fortran 95 programs with the GNU
compiler.

Edit: In case anyone is remotely interested, /me is a confirmed Python fanboi. Had to learn it back in 2001 when I joined the ISP I currently work for. Hated it for about 6 weeks, then something just 'clicked' and I rarely use anything else nowadays.

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	daperl	2009-11-10 , 00:52
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Originally Posted by Den in USA

Back in 1981, I was working in an engineering lab trained as an electronic tech. Since I was poor and could not afford an expensive HP programable calculator that the engineers had, I built what was later to be called the Timex Sinclair portable computer. At first, there were no apps for it so I learned basic so that I could run long engineering formulas. I still work in the Test Engineering section of that same company. A large Software Engineering sections writes all of our software in C++.

Thanks for the background. I asked because if someone is comfortable with BASIC, then maybe they would be willing to take the next step to a more structured programming language. For someone with a Nokia internet tablet/computer, I would recommend Python.

In the meantime, I've attached an armel version of Yabasic. It's a more structured version of BASIC. The demo program I included seems to run okay on my n810. After you download it, here's what to do if you saved it to the /home/user/download directory:

open a fullscreen xterm and type the following:

cd
tar xzf /home/user/download/yabasic.tar.gz
cd yabasic
[don't type this; see paragraph below]
./yabasic demo.yab

In order for the demo to run you'll have to dismiss the virtual keyboard before you hit the last return (I think there's a return button on the default xterm toolbar. If not, we'll have to fix that with an xterm shortcut). Also, you might have to hit the "Zoom -" button if you continue to get the screen size error message. The demo is kind of brain dead; it needs a 78x18 character console. You can fix that of course; I've already taken the demo from 24 -> 18 lines. If in trouble, Control-C might be your friend.

Here's a link to the Yabasic manual.

Good luck. Let me know if you want or need any help.

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