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2009-11-17 , 16:24
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#1361
factory shipping means 10-15 days till retailer shipping we are now on day 7... (yes its working days not including Sat.)

means the note by Nokia telling "end of November" is precise. you want a day? ask nokia for the day the packages left the fab! "ready for shipping" doesnt mean that the truck just left the properties.

I bet the first "I got one!" will yell nothing earlier than Monday next week.
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2009-11-17 , 16:26
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The problem isn't the delay it's the fact that Nokia can't be assed to say when it'll be out. Instead people have to guess based on retailer dates which are notoriously unreliable giving the impression of constant new delays.

Due to a complete reluctance to manage the flow information the talk isn't about the N900's capabilities but how how delayed it is and the lack of information surrounding it.
I totally agree but venting out may just make things worse. I mean has anyone heard of the saying "out of sight, out of mind" people here are just too addicted and totally in lust. The more people complain and vent out is just adding more fuel to the fire. Why??? I come here to find what new and coming to Maemo but it seems this forum is over run by needles post of status update.... Yes! we are waiting... Yes! its shipped.... Yes! there have been delays. Does that mean harassing/telephone stalking CS would make it any faster. I would guess that if these people didn't have to answer these calls they could be put to process your orders and they are not letting you know they have shipped because they have a backlog. In these times of economic downturn they need to have be as frugal as possible. Be lucky that there is a new device that is worth lusting about. And like I said "patience is a virtue and silence is golden"
 
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2009-11-17 , 16:29
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Apparenlty they were out for delivery yesterday, unfortunately we haven't got ours yet because of this

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2009-11-17 , 16:30
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this is stupid. if they held it up, so they could unbox em all and upgrade the firmware or something.... TELL US. There is no reason we should have to deal with this NO INFORMATION crap. If you do not change the way you deal with your community Nokia, you are going to fail in the open source sector. If they left korea when they said, they should be hitting distributors by now.... ZOMGA!

Course, im just gonna end up seppuku-ing myself tonight after I know its not gonna happen on the 17th, and then they will announce tomorrow that its hitting retailers or something.... just like the whole 9th/10th thing
 
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2009-11-17 , 16:31
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Originally Posted by chemist View Post
factory shipping means 10-15 days till retailer shipping we are now on day 7... (yes its working days not including Sat.)

means the note by Nokia telling "end of November" is precise. you want a day? ask nokia for the day the packages left the fab! "ready for shipping" doesnt mean that the truck just left the properties.

I bet the first "I got one!" will yell nothing earlier than Monday next week.
which proves that i am right with the November 27th date people
 
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2009-11-17 , 16:33
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Originally Posted by chemist View Post
factory shipping means 10-15 days till retailer shipping we are now on day 7... (yes its working days not including Sat.)
It seems pretty odd that nokia would have an announcement like Nokia n900 Begins Shipping if that were the case.

I would think that a company would have an announcement like: "n900 production is underway! Expect deliveries to start early in the week of November 23rd!". That way people are all excited (and, more importantly, informed). Instead, we got either a completely misleading or flat out lie of a post last week. Hence, every single person who has been waiting for up to two months has every right to complain about the situation.

Nokia is a big boy. It can handle the (justified) criticism. So many people (i.e. Nokia employees) are on here defending them like they aren't in the wrong.
 
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2009-11-17 , 16:37
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Well that wasnt the most helpful reply was it?

Lottery numbers? Im not asking them to predict the future. This is a product that Nokia and ONLY Nokia are in control of. I am not asking for super powers to be used. I am not looking for the meaning of life. Just some basic consideration for the growing fanbase of this device - give us some info! Address us directly! I expect the marketing department at Nokia are tearing their hair out because they DO appreciate the negative effect this lack of info creates.

And re the rest of your post, what a waste of type. Yawn.

I appreciate that info does trickle through eventually, but when I had 16th of November pencilled in as an exciting day, to hit the internet and see NO new info at all, certainly not from Nokia, was pretty disappointing.

Anyway, going round in circles here.

Lets hope we all see this device landing soon. I agree there's no need for outright flaming of Nokia and the helpful Maemo folk on here, but I think both sides here should consider each other's point of view a little more.
nice to know that you know all the processes standard new product must go through. the closer the release date gets, better estimates there are. note: i said estimates. I just gave you one. What if nokia announces that everybody willing will have n900 27.11.2009 and word explodes 25.11.2009. see my point? the date is nothing more than an estimate until devices are handed to buyers. everything can happen but the probability decreases more the device proceeds the shops.

what info do you want? it has been announced that the product has been shipped and it takes a while (2 weeks) to get to the preorderers and shops. what else do you want to know? that is an official press release. what do you really want? it came 10 days after the device should have been shipped. get real.
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2009-11-17 , 16:49
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Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
what info do you want? it has been announced that the product has been shipped and it takes a while (2 weeks) to get to the preorderers and shops. what else do you want to know? that is an official press release. what do you really want? it came 10 days after the device should have been shipped. get real.
You're completely incorrect. The announcements simply said the product was shipping and would available in stores in November. No mention was made of factories, boat/air or supply chains. Certainly no mention was made of two weeks.

The only way you'd interpret the information correctly was if you're very used to how Nokia does releases (i.e. poorly) or were following it here. The average person would assume orders were shipping to customers and that it would be available very soon in retail shops to walk in and buy

http://www.nokia.com/press/press-rel...newsid=1353921

http://conversations.nokia.com/2009/...gins-shipping/

http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...5A91C620091110
 
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2009-11-17 , 16:50
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#1369
What Nokia should do, IMHO, is give a definitive day and give all the preorders a CP-321 case for free (in white, please).
 
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2009-11-17 , 16:50
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I think I might cancel mine!
 
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