Originally Posted by silvermountain

Now. I still don't believe that the maemo 'community' will ever get to a size and have the level of organization/structure that is required to sustain both new developments as well as maintenance in a way that caters to the needs and expectations of professional users (and non-developers) - but, I hope I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by silvermountain

But to the point. My girlfriend put it the best a few nights ago in reply to me whining about someone on the interweb who was 'being wrong'. She said:
"Do you guys know how extremely blessed you are to even have the luxury to worry and fight about something as trivial as this?"

Originally Posted by silvermountain

A phone/operating system is really not enough to make people calling eachother idiots, jerks or trolls. It shouldn't even have the power to raise our blood pressure one bit. I wish I had kept that in mind myself more often - and to those of you that at one point or the other received a 'less than constructive and less than friendly' reply from me - please do accept my humble apologies.

Originally Posted by GeraldKo

Is that you, with your girlfriend in the bedroom, in this picture?

Originally Posted by CrashandDie

And guess what, did anyone try to punch me at the Summit?

Originally Posted by qole

Oh, did I mention,





I tried, but you were too fast making your batman-like escape on that scooter-bike thing.

Originally Posted by CrashandDie

<snip ignorant blah>



No, you don't. You don't care about the platform, and this whole thread demonstrates it. Some people do care about the platform. Some people have the required view and the required focus to try and do something about it. You're not happy with a specific aspect? That's absolutely normal. Nokia, with the N900, tried to cater for a wide audience, and that wide audience, currently, are the people who love the face-space, and people who blow money on petty ring-tones, the people who want bling and show off. The device may still have a very strong "geeky" connotation, because of its history and parents, but Nokia is a profit-aimed corporation, and they do want to make money, no matter which market they're in. I am a big supporter of the enterprise-targeted phone, and would love to have seamless Exchange integration and a calendar that rocks my socks off, phone conference support (joining conferences for example), etc. That being said, we can all help. If a feature is not there, and everyone missed it, be constructive about it. Report it, argue your case. People will listen if you make sense.

Let's not forget this platform is relatively young. It's a brand new way of doing things for Nokia, and everyone needs to adjust. Nokia isn't used to having to track an external, public bugtracker -- and it shows; but at least they're trying. But I digress.

What you believe, and how you insult this community is of no importance to us. Please do not insult our intelligence by pretending to be constructive, as you are just a senseless, ego-driven troll who seeks attention. You are not constructive by judging this community, and even doubting the fact it is that, a community (by putting the word community in quotes). The community around Maemo is thriving, growing and glowing, and if you fail to realise that at some point, we might be able to cater for most needs, then you are an idiot.

Don't judge a book by its cover. I've never heard of you, yet you allow yourself to cast a public vote as to our success? Nice.



Congratulations. Your girlfriend had a thought. If that was the "to the point" part of your post, I'll humour you and answer it.

Yes, we are blessed. Yes, we live in parts of the world that allow us to live under a roof, and have our Starbucks coffee on a daily basis while we commute to work. We've heard the tree-hugging monologue before, and it's starting to get pretty old. (Continued below)



Again, I've never heard of you, so no need for apologies. I really think you should step down from the self-induced sugar highs and start thinking of yourself as a regular Joe.

Regarding the fact that a phone and operating system is not enough to flame, well, actually, it is. I'm not saying this because I'm a troll (which I undoubtedly am, seeing this post). We have people in this community working amazing hours, contributing tremendous amounts of effort to move forward and challenge the status-quo. It is that force that makes any project like this worthwhile. And yes, sometimes there are heated discussions, and sometimes some bad words fly, but in the end, most of the discussions that matter are held because they matter. All of us here are hoping to be credited at some point, but regardless of our motivations (being underpaid by Nokia or hoping to get a loan device), once we get all together, around a nice pint or dinner, most of us will put our differences aside, as we are really together for one reason: getting this whole damned thing to work.

I'm guessing you weren't there during the Summit in Amsterdam, but (and you must be in the same case right now), a lot of people loathed me for my foul mouth and extremely rigid and direct approach. And guess what, did anyone try to punch me at the Summit? No. We may scream and yell, but we remain civilised.

Any project where people put literally hours and man-days of free effort is worth fighting for. If that alone isn't enough to convince you that we have a future, I'm afraid there's really not a lot we can do for you.

Good luck for your future experiences,

Originally Posted by CrashandDie

You are not constructive by judging this community, and even doubting the fact it is that, a community (by putting the word community in quotes). The community around Maemo is thriving, growing and glowing, and if you fail to realise that at some point, we might be able to cater for most needs, then you are an idiot.

Originally Posted by wesgreen

i guess the reason you've never heard of him is just that you're fairly new to the site.