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	vitaly_repin	2009-11-26 , 19:36
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Originally Posted by dba

Does "mfe and related components" include imap-idle?

Sure.

I've already voted for #3888 and added myself to the cc: list, but it would be well appreciated if you happen to know the proper person to nudge to make this happen.

I am one of the proper persons :-) Your feedback will be delivered.

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tecnophone	2009-11-26 , 19:48
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Hi Vitaly_repin

And about this BUG? https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3762

What is the solution at the moment?

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	vitaly_repin	2009-11-26 , 19:58
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Originally Posted by sxr71

MFE team to implement more reasonable sync periods (2 months, 3 month and 6 months)

Coming back to this topic.

Check these specs: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...weight%29.aspx

What we can do for email is: "No filter- synchronize all items", "1 day back", "3 days back", "1 week back", "2 weeks back", "1 month back".

The list of the sync. windows currently supported for email: 1day, 3 days, 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month, All messages.

So, all the options supported by MS Exchange (server side) are covered. See nothing which can be improved here.

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	vitaly_repin	2009-11-26 , 20:03
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Originally Posted by tecnophone

Hi Vitaly_repin

And about this BUG? https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3762

What is the solution at the moment?

Better to ask Sergio (author of this comment: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3762#c15) about the status.

I will try to ping him tomorrow.

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	vitaly_repin	2009-11-26 , 20:13
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Originally Posted by nokiafarce

errr would it be too much to ask, to see your folders that include the emails???? and then the emails inside the folders...

No. And I see them (yes, lucky me!). And everybody around me can see them. As well as the testers. As well as the real users.

Is it not this the reason, we use exchange?

You can call it a minor bug if you want, I take it you do not use exchange?

I use. If you got this issue with Exchange 2007, I am really sorry about this. I am serious - myself and all the development team are REALLY sorry about this.

But could you help us to identify the problem? This is the only way to fix it. Could you file a bug here: https://bugs.maemo.org/ Put me in cc. i will communicate with you personally.

If you don't have time to file a bug - do you have time for short chat in IRC/skype/gtalk/whatever? I really want to understand what is the root cause for your problem. In order to do this, I need to get more detailed report from you than plain "subfolders do not work".

Again, sorry for the issues you are facing.

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tecnophone	2009-11-26 , 20:14
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Originally Posted by vitaly_repin

Better to ask Sergio (author of this comment: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3762#c15) about the status.

I will try to ping him tomorrow.

Thanks a lot!

I have asked to Sergio

Uff, for me is a big problem!

Chheers

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	vitaly_repin	2009-11-26 , 20:22
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Originally Posted by ewan

Um. Which part of 'community development' doesn't make sense? How's anyone supposed to get even slightly involved if you won't even tell people what you're working on?

This is not a marketing issue.

In my opinion this is (concrete plans about the future) 100% marketing issue.

I have read the discussion in this thread on the topic you have raised here. It is more generic than MfE. Much more generic. Could you create a separate thread in this forum to discuss this and put a link to that thread here? So, everybody who is interested (including myself) can continue discussion in the separate thread. Just in order not to mix different issues in one thread.

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	ossipena	2009-11-26 , 20:40
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Originally Posted by vitaly_repin

But there is one project which is very close to this target:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeX

The number of digits after the dot sign in its version number is equal to the number of bugs found during its lifetime.

So, the fun starts:

$ tex --version
TeX 3.1415926

Count it yourself :-)

sorry, all I can see is pi

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	johnnyrockets911	2009-11-26 , 20:58
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Originally Posted by vitaly_repin

Better to ask Sergio (author of this comment: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3762#c15) about the status.

I will try to ping him tomorrow.

Just to copy for people who don't want to click:

Originally Posted by Sergio Villar Senin

I'll try to clarify things a little bit. Basically Modest becomes very slow and
it even seems to hang because the code that performs the sorting is the same
code that shows the contents in the screen. As these two things cannot be done
at the same time, if sorting takes too much time, then showing the application
or attending user requests will be delayed.

The technical explanation is that the list of headers is like this:
(GtkTreeSortable (GtkTreeModelFilter (TnyHeaderListModel)))

We need filtering to remove deleted but not expunged headers among some other
reasons, and sorting, well it's obvious. Thing is that the sorting and
filtering happen inside gtk+. Being single-threaded code, gtk+ either sorts or
attend events or draw widgets, but it cannot do everything at the same time.

Now the good news . We're working in an optimization for the
TnyHeaderListModel that will expose to the upper levels only a small subset of
messages to drastically reduce sorting and filtering times. Stay tuned.

.....

I already explained the reasons of that CPU consumption. In the case high IO
consumption it's because saving a summary file (which could be very big with
huge inboxes) is a terribly slow operation in a flash storage. That's why we
also reduced the amounts of writes.

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Originally Posted by vitaly_repin

But could you help us to identify the problem? This is the only way to fix it. Could you file a bug here: https://bugs.maemo.org/ Put me in cc. i will communicate with you personally.

If you don't have time to file a bug - do you have time for short chat in IRC/skype/gtalk/whatever? I really want to understand what is the root cause for your problem. In order to do this, I need to get more detailed report from you than plain "subfolders do not work".

Again, sorry for the issues you are facing.

Wow, you are willing to chat with users about issues. I have never seen a company do that. That is very impressive! Wow!

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	Andre Klapper	2009-11-26 , 23:08
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Originally Posted by johnnyrockets911

Just to copy for people who don't want to click

As written in https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3762#c18 , the issue is fixed internally and the fix will be available in the next update. I can confirm here that it works.

The topic that Nokia only pushes a few public, big updates from time to time instead of doing this more often, or even have some beta testing for those volunteers willing to do is something for another thread.

And yes, it's not cool that there is no workaround currently. :-/

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