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#191
Yes, I got through all the directions up to the "Just point your browser to http://localhost:1978" step. When I try to do this step, neither Safari nor Firefox know what to do.
 
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#192
Originally Posted by jsbigs View Post
Yes, I got through all the directions up to the "Just point your browser to http://localhost:1978" step. When I try to do this step, neither Safari nor Firefox know what to do.
maybe mac os x doesn't know how to resolve "localhost". try "http://127.0.0.1:1978" instead.


Originally Posted by romanianusa View Post
How can wi-fi play back using outside IP render just as laggy as the 3G??
what kind of internet connection do you have? your upstream could just be too slow for this... try changing your profile to a lower bitrate for streaming over the internet.
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#193
Originally Posted by romanianusa View Post
Now i have no doubt there is something wrong here. How can wi-fi play back using outside IP render just as laggy as the 3G?? There must be something wrong with the program? I know it's still in alpha stage of development...but i am giving you feedback ukki.
Ok, enough is enough. Stop making everything look like Knots' problem. If you have problems, it doesn't mean everyone shares your problems.

First of all, do you know that you are sharing your computer with the rest of the world now? Everyone can login to your computer and view your media. Streaming to internet requires some basic knowledge about networking. The least you can do is enable basic auth, but you should really enable SSL encryption too. This is where the problem starts. Networking library in extras that Knots uses has SSL disabled, so it won't work by default. I can provide a working lib and a newer version of the client to anyone who wants this feature, but that's why I've said in the wiki that this feature is for advanced users.

Secondly, you need to understand the limits of your internet connection. Your upload speed can be so slow that you can't stream decent quality video. This is not, I repeat not my problem. I'm providing a way to do this, but it's not my job to fix people's networks.

Knots allows you tinker with settings as much as you like. If quality is too good, lower it. If you get artifacts or something doesn't transcode properly, change format. If audio and video are out of sync, try fixing it with transcoding settings. I'm giving the tools to do this, but your really have to learn something yourself. Do yourself a favor and about streaming, networking, video formats etc and start tuning Knots to your liking. I'm trying to provide sane defaults, but I can't do everything.

I will try to fix bugs and add features so feedback is welcome, but a proper attitude may help you get them more easily.
 

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#194
hi ukki, is new client that supports ssl stable enough? also please check git bug reports for knots
 
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Originally Posted by asidana View Post
hi ukki, is new client that supports ssl stable enough? also please check git bug reports for knots
It just has the auth dialogs added so yes. But you need some other libs installed for it to work. And I noticed the report, will try to fix it this week.
 
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Originally Posted by romanianusa View Post
Ok i got this working through 3G Tmobile now. You simply use your real address instead of the LAN IP (192.168...). But the problem is it's TOO SLOW to playback ANY video.

Here's the the result i found:

1.Using wi-fi with LAN IP (QUALITY and PLAYBACK IS EXCELLENT...very smooth)

2.Using Tmobile 3G with server outside IP (HORRIBLE...can't play at all...froze)

3.Using wi-fi with server outside IP (HORRIBLE...can't play at all...froze...just like #2)

Now i have no doubt there is something wrong here. How can wi-fi play back using outside IP render just as laggy as the 3G?? There must be something wrong with the program? I know it's still in alpha stage of development...but i am giving you feedback ukki.
You should not give feedback on issues that you do not understand at all, it's of no use and irrevelant. The problem you are having has simply nothing to do with the code itself. I'll try to explain, but this will be the last time I do so read carefully.

1: That is because your LAN speed may be up and over 100 times as fast as using an outside connection. Ofcourse it is smooth. LAN speed depends on your network adapters speeds. How fast can your server upload, and how fast can your client machine download. CPU speed is a factor aswell, because you could have enough network speed but if your PC is too old, it can't transcode the video well enough on the fly.

2: 3G speed is dependant on a lot of things. How good reception do you have, how many other people using the same link tower your phone is connected to, and naturally what your dataplan speed is. Knots wasn't designed to go well with 3G and other outside the house solutions (Direct quote from ukkis opening post here: "Tired of transcoding and copying music and videos to your tablet just to view them at bed?"), although if you know what you are doing, you can create transcoding profiles that give you bareable quality and unlaggy playback, IF you have a well working 3G connection on your device. Things that are important on slow connection speeds are low bitrates and higher buffering. 3G can at best circumstances just be so slow that there is no point trying to use Knots for playback (if your dataplan speed is too slow or reception isn't good).

3: Again, depending how fast your internet connection is (upload stream is the most important factor usually), using the servers outside IP in LAN makes the stream pingpong via your ISP and thus using whatever DSL/Cable etc speed you are paying for, instead of direct local area net speed.

Now really, it is not anyone of our job to tell you these basic things, I don't want to be rude and I just wrote all this to clarify so the thread could stay cleaner. If you still have problems with networking, you should resort to finding info elsewhere.
 

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I have a Linux server available for this, but it's kind of old hardware. Do you have any guestimates what kind of processing power is needed for the on-the-fly encoding? Didn't find this information from wiki. I can't remember the exact CPU right now, and I'm faaaar away from home.
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Originally Posted by naabi View Post
I have a Linux server available for this, but it's kind of old hardware. Do you have any guestimates what kind of processing power is needed for the on-the-fly encoding? Didn't find this information from wiki. I can't remember the exact CPU right now, and I'm faaaar away from home.
I think something like 1 ghz cpu with 1 gb of ram should be enough for sd content. But it all depends on source format too and simple remuxing requires way less cpu than full transcoding.
 

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Originally Posted by jsbigs View Post
Yes, I got through all the directions up to the "Just point your browser to http://localhost:1978" step. When I try to do this step, neither Safari nor Firefox know what to do.
I'm at the same step. Still no luck. Does anybody know what's the problem? Would love to use this nice piece of software...
 
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Is the process running? Is the process listening for that port? Are there log files? I don't think anyone is giving more detailed information about this kind of issues, since this software is from extras-devel.
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