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2010-01-04
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Originally Posted by benny1967
I am ALSO not testing the firmware, but it sounds to me like they are implementing a drag highlight similar to the iphone. Can be very useful. The tap drag up gesture is news to me, I see how this is very very useful for those using the soft keyboard. No point in getting mad until we see whats actually released though.
Disclaimer:
I'm not one of the people who are currently testing the new Maemo release, so I'm free to speculate here.
Now, have a look at this:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7391
It seems the next update will remove features that we're used to. (Again, that is.)
The feature described in this bug report is the ability to perform gestures on the virtual keyboard. The most useful gesture is (was) "swipe up" for capital letters: You tap on a letter and swipe up instead of simply taking your finger away again. This equals Shift+letter.
The bug report documents that this feature has intentionally been dropped. For no apparent reason. The reason given doesn't sound valid:
Doesn't sound true to me. It's of course not faster to tap "Shift" first and then a character as compared to the current gesture. Two taps vs. one. Easy.
Also, in the current implementation I just cannot "drag the fingers through the keys". Well, I can move them from W over E to R, but I won't expect this to type the German word "wer" for me. Also, "the user pressing two places at a time" doesn't seem a reasonable option on the N900's resistive screen.
So no advantage here. Right?
I'm not sure.
Sometimes, when you look at the current state of Maemo, you really wonder if dark Finnish winter nights are a good environment for OS design.... But then, crippling something as central as the keyboard for no reason at all - why would they?
Could it be they're actually preparing it for advanced input methods that are around the corner?
Could it be that - not on the N900, but on a future device - "pressing two places at a time" will be something the keyboard has to handle because the screen is no longer resistive?
Could it be that "swiping" from letter to letter (as opposed to tapping on each of them) will be an option in a future release? So they have to get rid of all the other old gestures in time?
What do you think?
Is this the first step to a better onscreen keyboard?
Or is it just one of these Nokia decisions that simply cannot be explained by reason?
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2010-01-04
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Originally Posted by qwerty12
Not exactly a workable solution except for a very small minority of users.
Just keep a copy of PR 1.0's FKB plugin..?
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2010-01-04
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The new typing sounds more like this:
http://www.swypeinc.com/
http://www.swypeinc.com/
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2010-01-04
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I'm sorry for people who are used to swipe gestures, personally I didn't even know that they exist, but I love "pressing two places at a time" feature. That was (it is now) a serious hassle with fast typing on FKB.
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2010-01-04
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#7
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Fitaly on-screen keyboard for the Palm OS has similar gestures (point and swipe) for caps and accents.
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2010-01-04
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Well, this "feature" never work on my N900. Am I missing something?
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2010-01-04
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#9
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The touch-shift up feature I didn't know about. That would have solved a few things, plus making extra input a bit easier if one were to play with some usage scenarios. The newer one does sound like Swype, and Nokia had invested in that company. I wonder if there was some IP involved in the removing, and then the later licensing.
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Swipe-up for caps was the most useful feature of the vkb. I will certainly miss it... 
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I'm not one of the people who are currently testing the new Maemo release, so I'm free to speculate here.
Now, have a look at this:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7391
It seems the next update will remove features that we're used to. (Again, that is.)
The feature described in this bug report is the ability to perform gestures on the virtual keyboard. The most useful gesture is (was) "swipe up" for capital letters: You tap on a letter and swipe up instead of simply taking your finger away again. This equals Shift+letter.
The bug report documents that this feature has intentionally been dropped. For no apparent reason. The reason given doesn't sound valid:
Also, in the current implementation I just cannot "drag the fingers through the keys". Well, I can move them from W over E to R, but I won't expect this to type the German word "wer" for me. Also, "the user pressing two places at a time" doesn't seem a reasonable option on the N900's resistive screen.
So no advantage here. Right?
I'm not sure.
Sometimes, when you look at the current state of Maemo, you really wonder if dark Finnish winter nights are a good environment for OS design.... But then, crippling something as central as the keyboard for no reason at all - why would they?
Could it be they're actually preparing it for advanced input methods that are around the corner?
Could it be that - not on the N900, but on a future device - "pressing two places at a time" will be something the keyboard has to handle because the screen is no longer resistive?
Could it be that "swiping" from letter to letter (as opposed to tapping on each of them) will be an option in a future release? So they have to get rid of all the other old gestures in time?
What do you think?
Is this the first step to a better onscreen keyboard?
Or is it just one of these Nokia decisions that simply cannot be explained by reason?