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Svengalis is offline Svengalis
2009-11-27 , 03:27
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#61
Well *I* agree with you...
 
Dollyknot is offline Dollyknot
2009-11-27 , 03:28
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Originally Posted by joppu View Post
It's a bit sad to see people posting about "lack of MMS" "crippled phone functionality" "lack of profiles" "bad calendar" "missing bluetooth profiles". The reviews highlight how "bulky" and "heavy" it is.

It's not a phone and it's never meant to be. The N900 continues the Internet Tablet heritage and just having a cellular radio does not suddenly make it a phone. After all, all official Nokia sites use the term "Mobile Computer", not a "Smartphone". It's not even marketed as a phone. Everyone just has gotten the idea that it's the Nokia's new "flagship" phone. Perhaps because the model number so so much higher than the N97?

For anyone looking for the next Nokia Flagship phone should stick to the N97 (now that most of it's bugs are ironed out) and potentially buy the next Maemo device in the product line equipped with general customer ready Maemo 6 Operating System when it's out.

For anyone "geekish" person who loves the Open Source fundamentally of the device will love it, having access to x-terminal and the ease of developing software for it. Also the great browser and messaging are included.

But your basic customer who has used Symbian it's a whole different thing. They expect N900 to have every single same feature as the Symbian platform. And they expect it to work in the same exact way as Symbian.

Symbian is a phone OS that has been in development for since the 90's. Maemo is a mobile internet device OS that has been in development since 2005 (?) and the phone functionality was added only in latest version. You can't even compare them one to another!

As conclusion, the N900 is an Internet Tablet/Mobile computer with an added cellular radio.

So, When you go ask a geek about his his new phone, you'll be likely to hear "It's not a phone, it's a GNU/Linux based mobile computer with phone functionality" in a high voice
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sljonson is offline sljonson
2009-11-27 , 04:11
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Originally Posted by Fionn View Post
It's really strange the contortions of logic that people put themselves through to convince themselves and others that the n900 is not a phone.

Of course it's a phone. End of.
The N900 is not a Phone. Well that's not quite correct. It's more than a phone. The N900 is the first true communucations device for the Internet/Cell phone era. It's all due to RTCOMM which built on top of Telepathy. A communcation's framework. To which Nokia has added the Cellular protocol.

When I want to communicate with one of my contacts, I don't have to think about it. I don't have to worry about how I'm going to communucate with him. IM? Need to fire my IM applications. SMS? Well go into the messaging application. Voice? Bring up the phone app and place the call. The N900 elimiates all of that because everything is integrated together. I goto my contact and choose how I can to communicate and the RTCOMM does the rest.

When I finally got my N900, added some of my IM and VoIP accounts, I say the Call Type bar on the Phone App's Dial Pad. I was able to choose how a voice call could be made. That's when it the full ramifications of RTCOMM and the N900 hit me. It's a communication device. We can easily add new protocols by just adding a plugin into Telepathy. Then all of the N900 apps know of it and can use it.

AIM, MSN, ICQ, IRC, Google Talk, Cellular, SMS, etc. All at the touch of your finger on one device, and single applications (i.e. Voice, Messaging, etc). The application integration potential is mind boggling.

I'm very willing to bet I'll see 'telepathy-plugin-google-voice' in the very near future. I wonder who will be the first. One of our own at Maemo or Google itself.
 

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2009-11-27 , 04:12
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Originally Posted by sljonson View Post
I'm very willing to bet I'll see 'telepathy-plugin-google-voice' in the very near future. I wonder who will be the first. One of our own at Maemo or Google itself.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
phi is offline phi
2009-11-28 , 19:38
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#65
I don't like the fact that people are touting it as a mobile computer. Its ability to even use it as an email device is painful so far. (Hoping a firmware update will fix some if it)

Its an upgraded Internet Tablet with a phone app slapped on and GSM radio.
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2009-11-28 , 19:57
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Ah, semantics arguments... aren't they fun?
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2009-11-28 , 20:02
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I think a device has to be classified according to the primary use of the majority. I know on this website you all say it is a geek device, it is not a phone, it is not a mainstream device, etc. But the truth of the matter is the phone function is going to be the most used function. So whether you like it or not it is a phone. Just like the PS3 is a games console even though many rate it as the best blu ray player and many buy it for that purpose and never play any games on it.
 
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2010-01-06 , 01:12
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its been marketed as an iphone killer, the whole it doesnt need apps as its got a full browser/you can play flash games/or go straight in to you tube etc

therefore it is marketed as a phone to get sales,also marketed as a computer to make other sales in another market and they can get out of it not functioning well at basic things because its a computer not a phone.(people like the op fall for this big time)

ITS A PHONE END OF STORY, they have marketed it as onetherefore it should act like one first, you can buy it on phone contracts.


and you think people shouold stick with sybiam- wtf is that- maybe they should get a decent phone like err an android or an apple- even maemo 5 is ten times sybiam and its brand new, nokias aim shouldnt have been to out do its rubbish software but at least match the best.
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Originally Posted by mysticrokks View Post
its been marketed as an iphone killer
Point out where. I'll wait.
 
mysticrokks is offline mysticrokks
2010-01-06 , 01:18
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"theres a browser for that"

i think was the line.

i dont have to explain what that is supposed to mean surely

actually it was 'theres a web browser for that'

its all over the net
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