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2010-01-09
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Nokia sells millions of devices, but there is nothing really excited in them now. People are complaining about quality too. And you have many segments of market left. At least two examples:
if you want phone for difficult environments, you have 3720. Only GSM, small 2megapixel camera, not smartphone. Step ahead - 5500 was Symbian based (but it the same time had horrible covers, which were worse in 5140 and earlier).
if you want phone with 2SIM cards device, you don't have phone.
Instead of making hundreds "new" models they should create few, but rock stable and with features known from old devices. Exchangeable covers, big batteries, low SAR, etc. etc.
For now they're putting funds into at least three platforms (S40, Symbian, Maemo) and the last one seems to be developed by very small team, which doesn't have too many funds. And it makes funny situation - probably the most expensive device (I don't say about Vertu, because it's different story) doesn't have things known even from cheap models since 5 or 6 years (infamous MMS for example). They lost and simply try to reinvent wheel once again.
ehhh, where are times of phones with shooting cover (like 7110
) and nice netmonitor... where phone looked and worked like phone.
if you want phone for difficult environments, you have 3720. Only GSM, small 2megapixel camera, not smartphone. Step ahead - 5500 was Symbian based (but it the same time had horrible covers, which were worse in 5140 and earlier).
if you want phone with 2SIM cards device, you don't have phone.
Instead of making hundreds "new" models they should create few, but rock stable and with features known from old devices. Exchangeable covers, big batteries, low SAR, etc. etc.
For now they're putting funds into at least three platforms (S40, Symbian, Maemo) and the last one seems to be developed by very small team, which doesn't have too many funds. And it makes funny situation - probably the most expensive device (I don't say about Vertu, because it's different story) doesn't have things known even from cheap models since 5 or 6 years (infamous MMS for example). They lost and simply try to reinvent wheel once again.
ehhh, where are times of phones with shooting cover (like 7110
) and nice netmonitor... where phone looked and worked like phone.
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2010-01-09
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Originally Posted by marcinw
strange but true-tried and used lots of phones but for me the nokia 6233 music edition is the best phone out their-stereo speakers that are loud enough to listen to-recorder to record calls for business-easy to use -good size-the fact that they are still selling on ebay for $200 after 4 years and in demand proves the point that a few good models need to be continue on
Nokia sells millions of devices, but there is nothing really excited in them now. People are complaining about quality too. And you have many segments of market left. At least two examples:
if you want phone for difficult environments, you have 3720. Only GSM, small 2megapixel camera, not smartphone. Step ahead - 5500 was Symbian based (but it the same time had horrible covers, which were worse in 5140 and earlier).
if you want phone with 2SIM cards device, you don't have phone.
Instead of making hundreds "new" models they should create few, but rock stable and with features known from old devices. Exchangeable covers, big batteries, low SAR, etc. etc.
For now they're putting funds into at least three platforms (S40, Symbian, Maemo) and the last one seems to be developed by very small team, which doesn't have too many funds. And it makes funny situation - probably the most expensive device (I don't say about Vertu, because it's different story) doesn't have things known even from cheap models since 5 or 6 years (infamous MMS for example). They lost and simply try to reinvent wheel once again.
ehhh, where are times of phones with shooting cover (like 7110
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2010-01-09
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"(DOS had no native cooperative or preemptive multitasking, but you could certainly switch between apps)"
The company I worked for, Quarterdeck, made a product called DESQview that did something close enough to multitasking for normal purposes. You could run your stock app, for example, and find the information updated while you were in another window. A lot of stock traders depended heavily on DESQview.
It's funny how many people use verbal flim-flammery to deny the importance of multitasking, like denying it's actually happening because it doesn't adhere to some technical definition that ignores the perceptions of real people.
By the way, you know why people don't want to work closely with developers? Because they can barely IMAGINE the prospect! Here, someone can say "this menu sucks" and someone can appear out of nowhere and make the menu not suck. People don't have that kind of experience with Microsoft.
The company I worked for, Quarterdeck, made a product called DESQview that did something close enough to multitasking for normal purposes. You could run your stock app, for example, and find the information updated while you were in another window. A lot of stock traders depended heavily on DESQview.
It's funny how many people use verbal flim-flammery to deny the importance of multitasking, like denying it's actually happening because it doesn't adhere to some technical definition that ignores the perceptions of real people.
By the way, you know why people don't want to work closely with developers? Because they can barely IMAGINE the prospect! Here, someone can say "this menu sucks" and someone can appear out of nowhere and make the menu not suck. People don't have that kind of experience with Microsoft.
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2010-01-09
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What is the point of this thread?
Are you guys shareholders? Do you buy devices only if they're super duper popular?
This thread has to go to Off Topic.
Filling a forum where heavy development takes place with trash about market strategies other brands and pointless discussions (look for "OrangeBox") has no sense.
Are you guys shareholders? Do you buy devices only if they're super duper popular?
General
Relevant topics not tied to a specific program, OS or device. Post here if you can't find a better place.
Filling a forum where heavy development takes place with trash about market strategies other brands and pointless discussions (look for "OrangeBox") has no sense.
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2010-01-09
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dated hardware? huh? N900 has pretty much the latest TI stuff there is, i think they have a little faster cortex A8 but as far as i know nobody is using them yet in a phone not to mention the cortex A9 (which is nothing more as fas as i know a dual or more core A8)
you seem to look at the mhz but the snapdragon is a totally different beast as the cortex A8 so they are not comparable by looking at there mhz numbers
als 80% Global share by rim and apple?? you must be kidding, global is usa market i guess? BB isnt really great over here and apple does it better but i know a lot more people with S60 and or Maemo then bb/apple
you seem to look at the mhz but the snapdragon is a totally different beast as the cortex A8 so they are not comparable by looking at there mhz numbers
als 80% Global share by rim and apple?? you must be kidding, global is usa market i guess? BB isnt really great over here and apple does it better but i know a lot more people with S60 and or Maemo then bb/apple
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2010-01-09
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This is General, where only super-duper heavy development threads such
as "new members say hello" and "I love my N900!" threads happen.
I see why you're concerned!
as "new members say hello" and "I love my N900!" threads happen.
I see why you're concerned!
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2010-01-09
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BTW: When I posted a thread highlighting a New York Times article saying that Nokia's strategy in the US was failing in OFF TOPIC, no less a luminary than Texrat said he was sorry it hadn't been posted in GENERAL.
In other words, you can't win, especially if you aren't an authoritarian who likes to sling weight around.
Edit: Here's the quote from the Off Topic post. Unfortunately, it doesn't have much reasoning, but my description was ok:
" Texrat
10-18-09 , 11:31 AM
Posts: 8,503 | Thanked: 3,576 times | Joined on Jun 2006 @ North Texas, USA
I'm wondering why this is in Off Topic. Should be in General."
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In other words, you can't win, especially if you aren't an authoritarian who likes to sling weight around.
Edit: Here's the quote from the Off Topic post. Unfortunately, it doesn't have much reasoning, but my description was ok:
" Texrat
10-18-09 , 11:31 AM
Posts: 8,503 | Thanked: 3,576 times | Joined on Jun 2006 @ North Texas, USA
I'm wondering why this is in Off Topic. Should be in General."
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2010-01-09
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this is about a super-duper phone that fails to do basic tasks!
this is about me and others, people that bought this phone, hoping that it will be "the phone" and ending up with another device in their pocket ... a secondary one ... a 500-600 euros, 200+ g gadget for web and movies ...
I prefer to use my 2 year old NOKIA phone! it's outrageous!
maemo has a great community, and this makes me hope that maemo in general and this phone in particular can make progress ... but i don't understand nokia ... and i use nokia phones since 8110, my first phone ...
this is about me and others, people that bought this phone, hoping that it will be "the phone" and ending up with another device in their pocket ... a secondary one ... a 500-600 euros, 200+ g gadget for web and movies ...
I prefer to use my 2 year old NOKIA phone! it's outrageous!
maemo has a great community, and this makes me hope that maemo in general and this phone in particular can make progress ... but i don't understand nokia ... and i use nokia phones since 8110, my first phone ...
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2010-01-09
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So let me get this right: this is about people who could afford to buy a phone without checking out its strengths and weaknesses.
I'm sorry, Jean, I really am. I regretted my last phone the day I received it, so I know how it feels. But I regretted it for things I couldn't find out in advance: none of the shops locally had one for me to handle, so I had to buy sight-unseen, and the build quality was awful. And I had to change providers to one who despite their claims, proved to have poorer coverage where I work.
But even then, the things I could check out - spec, capabilities, features - were all exactly as described. I got what I expected.
There are many people here (and I'm not saying you're one of them) who just want shiney shiney. They don't stop to check whether the newest gadget is what they want or need - it's new and expensive so it must be good. The trouble is that devices don't go in straight lines. The straight line of phone advancement in nokia is the n97. If that's what you wanted, try for a refund or a swap. N900 is the next step from n810, which wasn't a phone at all.
People here seem to have convinced themselves that the biggest number must be what they want. It's not the number on the casing which matters. I don't think n900 was ever advertised as a 'super duper phone' so much as a super duper device that happens also to be a phone. It turns out, it's a fairly basic phone.
Last edited by RevdKathy; 2010-01-09 at 14:26.
I'm sorry, Jean, I really am. I regretted my last phone the day I received it, so I know how it feels. But I regretted it for things I couldn't find out in advance: none of the shops locally had one for me to handle, so I had to buy sight-unseen, and the build quality was awful. And I had to change providers to one who despite their claims, proved to have poorer coverage where I work.
But even then, the things I could check out - spec, capabilities, features - were all exactly as described. I got what I expected.
There are many people here (and I'm not saying you're one of them) who just want shiney shiney. They don't stop to check whether the newest gadget is what they want or need - it's new and expensive so it must be good. The trouble is that devices don't go in straight lines. The straight line of phone advancement in nokia is the n97. If that's what you wanted, try for a refund or a swap. N900 is the next step from n810, which wasn't a phone at all.
People here seem to have convinced themselves that the biggest number must be what they want. It's not the number on the casing which matters. I don't think n900 was ever advertised as a 'super duper phone' so much as a super duper device that happens also to be a phone. It turns out, it's a fairly basic phone.
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it is true tho; the number of numpties with iPhones is growing at a alarming rate....
hows your battery holding up?? mine is a problems, its usually dead by mid-day with light use