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2010-01-09 , 15:18
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Originally Posted by geneven View Post
BTW: When I posted a thread highlighting a New York Times article saying that Nokia's strategy in the US was failing in OFF TOPIC, no less a luminary than Texrat said he was sorry it hadn't been posted in GENERAL.

In other words, you can't win, especially if you aren't an authoritarian who likes to sling weight around.


Edit: Here's the quote from the Off Topic post. Unfortunately, it doesn't have much reasoning, but my description was ok:

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I'm wondering why this is in Off Topic. Should be in General."
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2010-01-09 , 15:25
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Oh crap, guess I missed the metapoint.
Thanks! I have to add the word metapoint to Bull***** B!ngo. It's become my database of management-speak words.
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2010-01-09 , 15:39
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#43
Android's one main constraint was lack of app space but they are adding this to an update this year. If Android allows codec creation for audio and video outside of the framework, they will also get the multimedia enthusiasts on board as well.

Apple would then be screwed.

Maemo seems still a work in progress, so hard to compare to the others. Has potential, but Nokia does not seem to be making the effort. They seem to expect everyone to come to them, rather than provide resources and incentives to foster growth of apps.

Even Apple and Google had to do go to the devs and make an effort. Both are still active in the process.
 
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2010-01-09 , 15:47
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Ahhh, i love it. The same group who makes fun of the iphone fan boys are fan boys of their own. Give it a rest.

I do own an n900, but I had to say it
 

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2010-01-09 , 16:02
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Originally Posted by MrWh1t3 View Post
Ahhh, i love it. The same group who makes fun of the iphone fan boys are fan boys of their own. Give it a rest.

I do own an n900, but I had to say it
I'm curious. Mind naming which posters here you think fall under that category?
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2010-01-09 , 16:11
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Originally Posted by hex900 View Post
2) Nokia has been losing market share faster than anyone, even Nokia imagined (which they've admitted). In the smartphone category, which is now the fastest growing phone category, they have gone from mid-30% GLOBAL market share to under 15% in just 12-months (it's been all over the news so I'm surprised that no one knows either of these facts). Last I checked, Apple's iPhone has nearly reached 20% global smartphone market share and it still isn't rolled out in every country with China and Korea just opening up for them: two of the hottest spots for smartphones. Apple is AHEAD of Nokia in smartphone market share - period.
LOL. You must be dreaming.

According to Canalys ( http://www.canalys.com/pr/2009/r2009112.html ) Nokia has slightly increased their market share on smartphones from 2008 to 2009. They are steady at 40%. RIM is doing it really great, while HTC is having a hard time, as is MS OS. Anyway, just wanted to point out that your numbers are completely wrong.

But I am starting to fail to see the points of these threads. If you want a Nexus (with useless OLED screen) or a 3gs (the mobile phone industry equivalent of a "big mac" ie. tasty the first 5 bites), then get one and get over it. It is not like Nokia will crumble and disappear because of it.

And as pointed out by many. Reading US blogs and US news to get info about the mobile industry, is a waste of time. Well, for everyone except those who actually can use this nonsense info as an advantage when trading, as many do
 

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2010-01-09 , 16:34
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#47
It amazes me to see people criticizing Nokia for launching a basic phone in the N900 and then for not marketing it more. How are they going to market something they know is not ready for the spotlight?

People should stop being shallow and chasing the "shiny and expensive" and stop drinking the US blogs KoolAid (heh I can dream, right).

There is a good reason we had not seen something new, aside from the N900 (that was launched for credibility) in 2009, and it was that the new Symbian was going to be ready in 2010, just when the markets Nokia likes pass the hard part of the crisis and are willing to spend money again.

No one is watching and Symbian^2,3,4 and Maemo 6 that come in 2006 are going to do the same that Maemo 5: wow people that didn't see them coming.
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2010-01-09 , 23:25
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@Revdkathy: i agree ... from the n810 perspective, n900 is a great upgrade ... n900 can be seen as another branch ...
i played with it before buying, n97 was the safe bet. i picked n900 because i liked the entuziasm behind maemo's community. now ... i did not played with the phone app, contacts, sip .... these, for me, were solved by nokia long ago ... it was a mistake! .... i knew i'd have to wait for a decent navigation app

i hope the the firmware upgrade will fix this ... but so many new and exciting devices will be announced in the meanmetime ... vive la competition!

on the other hand: a 500 to 600 euro device, to be used for 1 year .... say 2 .... is bought because one can afford to throw the money away, otherways a 200-300 euro netbook is the smart solution for mobile computing ... or a tablet ... a pixel qi tablet for eg

we will have to wait 6 mths for a decent firmware .... 6 more mths and the n900 will crack, die ... become obsolete ... it's not fair!

interesting post: http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...t-preview.html
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2010-01-09 , 23:44
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#49
the moment I see a chav with it [...] , i'll stick someone real good.
Anyone who can say "i'll stick someone real good" with a straight face is a chav themselves in my book.
 
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2010-01-10 , 06:02
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Originally Posted by NvyUs View Post
maybe try posting your concerns on nokia forums b/c most ppl here could not care less about nokia devices of yesterday we just want real open linux hackable devices
thankyou. It's like people want nokia to bring out a device every 2 days for the hell of it. They're working on it and I agree this is rant for nokia customer service. Keep it Maemo
 
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