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Does your n900 have the hazy image issue in the top corner?

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2010-01-25 , 21:29
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#51
Originally Posted by Bec View Post
Well I think the issues are caused by the blue border of the camera cover that causes reflection in certain lighting conditions (low light and flash). Drawing a simple line with a marker, in my opinion, fixes this.
i was referring to vyper1's sample image. and the blue stripe could be a cause for the flaring too.
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2010-01-25 , 21:29
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#52
Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
I'd say that "the haze" is plain flare. so light enters somewhere from the sides to the lens. I can reproduce it very easily with no flash etc with my 14mm dslr objective
We're not on about how you reproduce flare on your camera.
Flare from what I ask as there were no ceiling lights on etc. Only light source other than the flash was coming in from behind me from the living room. So if the light rays decided to miraculously wrap themselves around me and enter lens from top right or produce a flare then I'm impressed. It was a dark room as in no lights on in the room, ok apart from the xmas lights on the tree and the room behind me. My cover is open as far as it is possible, but like I said just because your unit doesn't show the same problems doesn't mean others do not. It's like any other device, product etc, some units will show symptons that others do not.
 
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2010-01-25 , 21:31
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#53
Sorry if that sounded like I'm ranting as I'm truly not
 
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2010-01-25 , 21:40
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#54
I've had the hazy issue as well.

And on a sunny day I've had a few pictures come out hazy as well from he sunlight reflecting.
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2010-01-25 , 21:40
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#55
In my opinion there is couple of different things happening

- Haze because of hands or other object close to flash (Flash)
- Blue border of the camera cover that causes reflection in certain lighting conditions (object < 2m) (Flash & Low light)
- Silver border - Top/corner picture haze (Flash)
- Silver border - tint because of overall reflection (object < 2m) (Flash)
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2010-01-25 , 21:45
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#56
In my opinion it's obviously blue reflection caused by the cover + flash/certain lighting conditions.

However this is not a camera and it's not even a dedicated camera phone. I honestly don't care about this reflection nor about drawing a line on the cover.

I'd care a lot if nokia would finally quit separating market segments in multimedia/business/hacker/etc and stop cutting corners, eg. this is a hacker phone, not a camera phone.

I know economy 's a b**** and devices and ideas have to be feasible but a high end sensor would have been awesome but what's done is done and most of us didn't get N900 for the camera.

Fixing a small reflection or replacing the cover won't help as much as some more advanced post processing algorithms would.

This fixes it for me. Can't say anything until more of you are willing to try this - just take the cover off first.
Sorry for the blurry pic but you oughta get it by now.
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2010-01-25 , 22:05
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#57
don't know why people can't see what's so damn obvious.
just look at the camera when flash is enabled and start focusing.
as the flash goes on you'll see that the chrome ring is reflecting light from the right side of the leds which is at the top right corner of the camera.
you only have to look at my photos. the haze is right there!
also the blueish touch is there. so why deny this problem?!
just be happy if you haven't got this problem but don't say that there is no problem at all... IT IS.
 
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2010-01-26 , 06:28
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#58
Originally Posted by vyper1 View Post
We're not on about how you reproduce flare on your camera.
Flare from what I ask as there were no ceiling lights on etc. Only light source other than the flash was coming in from behind me from the living room. So if the light rays decided to miraculously wrap themselves around me and enter lens from top right or produce a flare then I'm impressed. It was a dark room as in no lights on in the room, ok apart from the xmas lights on the tree and the room behind me. My cover is open as far as it is possible, but like I said just because your unit doesn't show the same problems doesn't mean others do not. It's like any other device, product etc, some units will show symptons that others do not.
of course flash can cause flaring and you don't even need a chrome border to camera module for that....
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2010-01-26 , 06:29
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Originally Posted by b666m View Post
don't know why people can't see what's so damn obvious.
just look at the camera when flash is enabled and start focusing.
as the flash goes on you'll see that the chrome ring is reflecting light from the right side of the leds which is at the top right corner of the camera.
you only have to look at my photos. the haze is right there!
also the blueish touch is there. so why deny this problem?!
just be happy if you haven't got this problem but don't say that there is no problem at all... IT IS.
who has said that there is no problem?
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2010-01-26 , 10:53
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Don't think the chrome has any importance, the light form the flash is very strong so that a reflection that small would be 100% covered by the much stronger light of the flash that doesn't need the chrome to go in all directions any way.
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