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rheve, I think you will be pleasantly surprised... soon.
 
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Texrat I too would love to be pleasantly surprised

As a user who has found the n800 invaluable over the last few months, I agree with users who experience some trepidation. As a noob to the open source world I must say I don't understand the way in which Nokia wishes to use the community. I see loads of great apps out there, Claws-mail, Abiword, gnumeric, GPE suite, simple launcher, Gizmo, minimo, mplayer, apps that if they were integrated into the system would really make the N800 a juggernaut.
If I had turned on the N800 and the email client had been a well integrated port of claws, and if Abiword were installed with .doc support I would have been immediately able to see value in the device. As is however, I knew what I wanted to use it for and I was able to use it right away. I had a friend who returned his after about 2 weeks because he found he used his smartphone (E61) for all the functions that he wanted an N800 for.

This is where I don't understand, Nokia has the chance to invest a few hundred thousand Euro's in salaries to put some engineers on the job to polish some of these applications. The payoff will come off in users finding that Maemo is a great platform like Symbian and WinMo and the N800 device is the perfect device to use Maemo on.

My wish is for Nokia to make the N800's minimum standard the same level as the integrated googletalk and to not even bother including applications that are broken such as the existing email which I tried to use once and then gave up and the RSS reader which doesn't hold posts at all. Only this way will they find true mass market acceptance.

They have the lead on Intel's MID by having hardware already in the marketplace they should leverage this by keeping current customers happy and using much needed innovation to bring in new users.
 
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Nokia isn't interested in making a good device. They're only interested in making a not-too-sucky device so that they can entice users to buy a new, slightly-less-sucky device several times over.

They've managed that trick once sofar.
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens View Post
Nokia isn't interested in making a good device. They're only interested in making a not-too-sucky device so that they can entice users to buy a new, slightly-less-sucky device several times over.

They've managed that trick once sofar.
Some Nokia marketeers and bean counters? Maybe.

Any Nokia engineers, programmers, designers and quality assurance personnel? No.

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I'm going to go out on a limb and assume google talk, email and skype are going to enjoy some level of contact integration in the next update since skype seems to be coming with a firmware upgrade.

I hope I wont be disapointed!!!

And steal apples lovely iphone scrolling. I like the flick and scroll idea
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Some Nokia marketeers and bean counters? Maybe.

Any Nokia engineers, programmers, designers and quality assurance personnel? No.
They have quality assurance personnel? While I love the platform, I think they have missed the mark on polish. As a linux geek, this thing is awesome, I have control which is what I want. If I knew nothing about linux and I bought this device I would be very upset. I will live through and work around problems/features that annoy me, because it is Linux in my hand, and that is why I bought this thing. If this platform will last, they will need to appeal to more than just linux geeks. I agree with mobiledivide, nokia is missing the massive opportunity in thier hands.

Perhaps they will get it, or something better will come along!!
 
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Originally Posted by penguinbait View Post
They have quality assurance personnel?
I'm really going to have to bite my tongue right now.

I get the feeling the message in many of my posts is missed...
 
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#38
settle down,

settle down

 
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Yeah, bait is a good inclusion for your name.
 
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insert rat joke here
 
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