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2010-01-27 , 01:26
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#91
Originally Posted by mrdally204 View Post
Bump, I'm surprised there arent more users/comments for this application. I'm hoping with the bup the people who missed the announcement will install and give some feedback.
I have installed. I think many like me are waiting for the next drop from epage - Thus far the status is the same as the first message in this thread.
 
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2010-01-27 , 01:27
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#92
I'm not using any other msg services. I did notice today that if I get a sms and get to the conversation too quickly, I here my sound notification twice. Might have been a fluke though. It's only happened two times.
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2010-01-27 , 01:32
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#93
Originally Posted by mrdally204 View Post
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what is the current setting for looking for new messages? I'm curious as to how often. Another question, do you have to show the contacts as "online" in order for the application to work? It would be better for my use case anyways to have them not appear online as it would make my messenger application easier to use.
The equation for new texts is
Code:
wait = min(20 + 2**n seconds, 30 minutes)
n: number of times we've checked for new messages since last sent/received text

Could you provide more clarification on why you want the contacts to not be marked as online? As in how it would make the messenger application easier to use?

Originally Posted by lemmyslender View Post
I'm not using any other msg services. I did notice today that if I get a sms and get to the conversation too quickly, I here my sound notification twice. Might have been a fluke though. It's only happened two times.
As long as you do not get repeated messages, most likely this would be a Nokia issue rather than an issue for me.
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2010-01-27 , 01:49
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The best example I can give you for easier to use is this. As I have mentioned I have AIM running along side SIP and TOR. Before TOR installed, I would go to my contacts screen on my N810 and click the Online status. This would show my online buddies available for instant messages. Now it shows them, along with about 60 other "online" contacts from TOR. If I go to AIM it will show both my online friends as well as offline. It just made contacting AIM friends more tedious.

*edit can you tell me where I can change the checking of messages formula so I can change it to a more frequently checking status. I mgs quite often and would like to check it every 5-7 minutes, assuming it would be easy for me to do.
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natmaster is offline natmaster
2010-01-27 , 01:54
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#95
Battery life issues: i.e., polling bug, and option to disable polling altogether.

Also, very important thing is to have the contact list integration (like skype, where you can choose to gv anyone). But the top issues are much more important.

Originally Posted by epage View Post
Based on results of my own testing, mrdally204, and lemmyslender I have marked The One Ring as Beta quality for Maemo 4.1 This means I will unplug my ears and listen to issues people run into

Keeping in mind the current bug list, I'd be curious to hear what people think are showstoppers for pushing The One Ring into Maemo 4.1 extras and Maemo 5 extras-testing?

When making recommendations please list which Maemo version you are making the recommendation for.
 
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2010-01-27 , 02:18
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#96
Originally Posted by mrdally204 View Post
The best example I can give you for easier to use is this. As I have mentioned I have AIM running along side SIP and TOR. Before TOR installed, I would go to my contacts screen on my N810 and click the Online status. This would show my online buddies available for instant messages. Now it shows them, along with about 60 other "online" contacts from TOR. If I go to AIM it will show both my online friends as well as offline. It just made contacting AIM friends more tedious.
I actually implemented them as Away originally out of a similar concern but I just counted on people being able to look at the protocol specific lists. I went back to all being Online because the heavier texters might want it that way but because they can just look for GV contacts only and they all have the same status, I guess it does make sense.

I'll look into modifying things ... in fact how would it be if I used two different levels of away, one for phones marked as cell phones and one for everything else? The theory is that a cell phone is more likely to support texting so it can be used by people to distinguish numbers quickly for texting but I know some people use the phone type to signify other meanings.

Originally Posted by mrdally204 View Post
*edit can you tell me where I can change the checking of messages formula so I can change it to a more frequently checking status. I mgs quite often and would like to check it every 5-7 minutes, assuming it would be easy for me to do.
If you want it done officially then you should look forward to me fixing:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8511

Unofficially, as root (dangerous, blah blah) edit
Code:
/usr/lib/theonering/gvoice/session.py
and look for
Code:
		self._textsStateMachine.set_state_strategy(
			state_machine.StateMachine.STATE_ACTIVE,
			state_machine.GeometricStateStrategy(
				state_machine.to_seconds(seconds=20),
				state_machine.to_seconds(seconds=1),
				state_machine.to_seconds(minutes=30),
			)
		)
Another option is to keep the debug prompt up and reset the timers through "reset_state_machine" (auto-complete picks up on it and that helps). This is a bit heavy handed because it also resets it for voicemail and the addressbook.

Originally Posted by natmaster View Post
Battery life issues: i.e., polling bug, and option to disable polling altogether.

Also, very important thing is to have the contact list integration (like skype, where you can choose to gv anyone). But the top issues are much more important.
The polling bug was fixed in 0.7.0-1 last Friday night or so. Since then my battery life has astounded me. My n810 has been running (idle) for over 24 hours without a charge on wifi and has not shown a dent in the battery life. In the n810's favor is it supports "Away" status which is a battery saving mode and not in its favor is the way I setup the polling is less battery efficient.

On my n900 on wifi with the better polling code but without the away status and a mix of idle/active and texting I got 8 hours on half a charge (I think).

You mention disabling polling. Is your use case to use The One Ring without any texting support and to just use it for calls?

For clarification, you feel contact list integration is not just critical but critical enough that I shouldn't send it to Extras? I'm curious what your reason is? The best I can figure is increased user confusion leading to an overload of support issues to resolve.
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2010-01-27 , 02:23
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#97
I can also say that on my n900, with wifi, and online I got approx 8hrs battery life as well.
 
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2010-01-27 , 02:25
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Originally Posted by natmaster View Post
Battery life issues: i.e., polling bug, and option to disable polling altogether.

Also, very important thing is to have the contact list integration (like skype, where you can choose to gv anyone). But the top issues are much more important.
I'm typing the contact number in manually and then merging with the existing contact. That makes the GV option available. But that might only apply to me as I'm not using this for every contact in my list.
 
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#99
Originally Posted by w107kam View Post
I can also say that on my n900, with wifi, and online I got approx 8hrs battery life as well.
How much do you think it was before? Do you consider it a significant enough of a drop that I should find some battery savings before releasing this to a wider audience?
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2010-01-27 , 02:32
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#100
Originally Posted by epage View Post
How much do you think it was before? Do you consider it a significant enough of a drop that I should find some battery savings before releasing this to a wider audience?
I think with the new battery savings it is definitely ready for a wider audience. I'm sending 30-40 messages a day, which is probably moderate use, and the battery life to me is quite acceptable.

I'd estimate before with the same usage it was closer to 4-6hrs depending on usage.
 

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