Here we go... deep breath:

Should it ever be confirmed that Harmattan is not going to be made available for the N900 I would urge the Community Council to resign en mass. Everyone should unsubscribe from the mailing lists. Bugzilla accounts should be deleted.

I know for sure that my involvement would end, permanently (some of you may say that's a good thing! ) and I would switch to a competing device and very likely never come back to Nokia, ever.

The purpose of filing bugs, and being involved in this community is, if we're honest, mainly selfish as we want to see the products we already own improve. So it really, really sucks to spend all our time finding and filing bugs only to discover that in order to obtain any kind of resolution we need to purchase yet another device costing several hundred pounds/dollars/euros.

And you make this purchase KNOWING that it will result in the same torment: find a bug, file a report, watch it lie dormant for months only to be resolved in a future OS incompatible with your current device. You will not see any benefit* from filing that bug on your current device. Really, why should we bother?

This is NOT how the competition behaves.
This is NOT how the competition treats its loyal customers and community members.
This IS why Nokia must change.

Harmattan must be made available for the N900, forcing owners to buy a new device with each OS release is simply the fastest way to alienate customers. And I can't see content partners being too happy about it either.

* Obviously some bugs will be fixed for the current device, but many others never are, and enhancements are can be forgotten.

Droid gets updates!!!!!

But it is true that the G1 will not get an Android 2.0 because the hardware cant support it supposedly.

Um.. except for the fact that "bugs" and "feature requests" are getting marked as "fixed in harmatten?"

So... how long exactly do you expect to be getting bugfixes again?

I know I'm being a bit of a naysayar... but I'm pretty annoyed ATM now that I've seen at least some form of an official statement saying there will be no M6 on the N900.

IF the bugs in bugzilla and current feature requests *for* the N900 were being marked as fixed *for the N900* then this would not be an issue.. they still support Maemo 5 and Maemo 6.. while I personally think that's a waste - so be it.

But with things being marked as "milestone: harmattan" and set to "fixed".. that implies to me that it will not be fixed or added to the N900. You have what you've got, be happy with it. I don't like that idea.

And it doesn't matter if apple "cares" for their customers.. we all know they dont.. what matters is, from a consumer perspective, the guy who purchased his iphone 3 years ago still got updated.

all about the hardware.. nokia will not kill a flagship device over night. plus they need to bank off the opps factor (did not expect n900 to take off) and keep it going.. best handset to date..

It would be very short sighted not to upgrade the firmware on the iPhone. The users can still buy things in AppStore and iTunes Music Store.
New function weren't implemented and some software is not running on the iPhone 1G or 2G the way it meant to be.

Hopefully Nokia will do this the same way with the N900 but on the other side I doubt. Would be a pleasant surprise

Technically it doesn't matter in Maemo 5 is going to be upgraded to Maemo 6 given we know Qt 4.6 is being ported to Maemo 5 (available Q1 2010, in beta now). that means applications from Maemo 6 should run on Maemo 5 assuming they don't require hardware specific to the Maemo 6 device.

Rafa Benitez* is running Nokia? That explains it all!

* Rubbish football manager of Liverpool FC

Heres the thing.

I'm paying £30 a month to Vfone for the pleasure of using my N900 NOW. In 18 Months I expect to b paying £25 a month. And they will throw in an N9XXX or what ever it is.

THATS THE DIFF between the N770,N800,N810.

So while it might have pissed me off when I had those devices, strangely enough I'm pretty easy with the whole situation. Do I regret getting the N900, nope still cant see an alternative out there for my needs.

(Apologies in advance to those that did not buy on contract).

Correct, not everything works.. but it wasn't abandoned either.

What irks me, as I said, is combination of current problems with the devices, and feature requests for this device (which it's capable of), being marked as fixed in harmattan - and then Nokia saying Harmattan will not be on the N900. Especially this soon after the devices launch.

When you add these two together you get an abandoned device. Certain bug requests not being fixed, and many feature enhancements will not be added. It's a disturbing thought, IMHO.

Or those that could not... since the N900 is not available to any US carrier subsidized (that i am aware).